Comments Thread For: Pacquiao on Mayweather-Cotto, Stands Firm on 50/50 Split

[RuMbLe]

Originally Posted by icebergisonfire
Why is it a forgotten fact that the first ever 'negotiations' for this gave Pacquiao everything he wanted, except for drug testing? Floyd conceded ring size, 50/50, glove size and everything else. Manny ran and said no. Floyd said then that if you walk away from this, 50/50 will be off of the table in the future.

Fast forward years later, I know why people are saying Floyd is chicken, but all he is doing is staying true to his word from years prior. On top of that, have you all seen the ESPN money issue. He took Oscar's model and made even more money from it. Back in 2009, an even split was warranted. In 2012, its a laughable suggestion at best. Nowhere in the history of doing business does two en****** come back to the negotiating table with the same terms as before if they are no longer on equal footing. Mayweather and Pacquiao are not on equal footing when it come to top billing in boxing as far as revenue. He should have taken that 40 million offered to him in a heartbeat.

You ****ing lying ****. Since 2009 Pac has had the highest selling and grossing fight in PPV and gate in the 2 of the 3 years going head to head with Mayweather. Mayweather's fights did not generate more than his. 50-50 is more warranted now than it ever was. The only issue is Mayweather since then has gotten used to picking up easy paydays for 90-10 splits vs cherry picked opponents and would rather continue making $30-40 million in fights he knows he has little chance of losing than to man up and take on his toughest test and career-defining fight for $70 million. He wants $100 million for that, because he knows he;s not going to get it. This will have to go down as the biggest duck in the history of sports. $70 million dollars he is turning down. smh

[IronDanHamza]

He (Floyd) needs to just suck up his pride and accept the 50/50 split. It's the only way we're ever going to possibly see the fight happen for starters. And secondly, we know Arum will just come up with something else as to why the fight can't happen, so in the public eye, Floyd would be vindicated.

I think both guys are at fault here, but I blame Pacquiao more simply for refusing the testing when originally requested. Looks shady as hell.

I agree.

Especially with the last sentance.

I gave up on this fight when it didn't happen for this May but I'm getting that glimmer of hope again that it happens later this year Doubt it though.

[switchsouthpaw]

45/45 with 10% going to the winner. You the best take the test according to Floyd. Ok in the reverse, you the best (Floyd) accept the split and take the 10% when you win. What's unfair about that? Unless of course you dangle off Mayweather's satchel.

[ßringer]

I agree.

Especially with the last sentance.

I gave up on this fight when it didn't happen for this May but I'm getting that glimmer of hope again that it happens later this year Doubt it though.

Truthfully, I stopped caring about this fight over a year ago. The only reason any part of me even still remotely wants to see it happen is so that the loser's fanbase will piss off out of NSB in shame, and we can have some boxing conversation in here again that doesn't immediately tie back to one of the two.

[The Big Dunn]

I agree.

Especially with the last sentance.

I gave up on this fight when it didn't happen for this May but I'm getting that glimmer of hope again that it happens later this year Doubt it though.

Can't disagree with you guys more. It seems for one reason or another floyd has to take less than he's worth to make this fight. How is that right?

AT the end of the day, criticize him for how he did it, but floyd made himself a valued commodity. He also took the risk and set up a new business model. Now, at the point where that work and risk should pay off, he is supposed to compromise that and take less?

Sorry, but how is that fair?

[IronDanHamza]

Truthfully, I stopped caring about this fight over a year ago. The only reason any part of me even still remotely wants to see it happen is so that the loser's fanbase will piss off out of NSB in shame, and we can have some boxing conversation in here again that doesn't immediately tie back to one of the two.

Agreed.

The only problem is though, the winner's moronic fanbase will be 100x worse.

So it's a double edged sword.

[EMACULATE]

I dont think it matters about PAC and Bradley it's if Mayweather and Cotto outsell Cotto and Pac. Lets be clear Pac doesnt have a leg to stand on for 50/50 negotiations. Hes not undefeated and he's not the biggest draw. So he can run that road with Arum but it want lead to him getting 50/50 with Mayweather. Pacquaio doesnt promote the fight like mayweather will and he deserves 50% why. No logical fan for either side can tell me that im LYING. Pac at best in my book deserves 40% but unfortunately for him Bradley will ruin that plan as well.

[brick wall]

this fight is not going to happen as long as floyd gets ample support from his fanatics no matter how ridiculous his offer was.

aside from agreeing to take the test, pac has also agreed that floyd gets the bigger guarantee. all he's asking is 50-50 split in ppv revenue.

i think that pac is fine with a $40 million guarantee to floyd's $50 million...just split the ppv revenue equally after that. in the end, floyd will still be $10 million richer than pac after the fight. that is more than enough to make the fight ffs. the way you are defending floyd with his purse demand is beyond ******.

these simpletons are just looking at the ppv split and they immediately say floyd should get more than 50%. well he is getting more than 50% if you consider the guarantee. in fact, the bulk of their purses is in the guarantee not the ppv. ppv revenue is the excess money after deducting the shares of cable companies, hbo, promoters etc. it is totally dependent on the ppv numbers.

[IronDanHamza]

Can't disagree with you guys more. It seems for one reason or another floyd has to take less than he's worth to make this fight. How is that right?

AT the end of the day, criticize him for how he did it, but floyd made himself a valued commodity. He also took the risk and set up a new business model. Now, at the point where that work and risk should pay off, he is supposed to compromise that and take less?

Sorry, but how is that fair?

I think 50/50 is just a logical medium.

Mayweather does better numbers but him and Pacquaio are still #1 and #2 and it's just a fair split IMO.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Dirk we agree. Thats the problem is the logic used. If you keep saying, "last 3 fights" well then now that argument is dead.

Bottom line for me is random OST, especially now since Petersen tested psoitive, can't be something exchanged for purse split. Nevada, HBO, promoters, fighters, all should be able to agree better testing is needed.

This means purse split should be decided based on the numbers. If Manny doesn't deserve 50/50 then he shouldn't get it.

Who said it was exchanged for OST? 50/50 has always been the split. I dont see why Mayweather would agree to it then and not now. Unless he never actually agreed to it in the first place?

He's always done slightly more PPV which is again a given since he's an English speaking fighter and therefore has more ability to "sell" himself. I think the difference is negligible so it should be 50/50 or at worst 55 to the winner. Theres no way its gonna happen for a 40m flat fee.

No one was even mentioning the split before, it shouldn't be an issue now.