What % of Top Boxers Are On PED's?

[Gino Ros]

Did you even read the article you posted?

"There were significant differences in the lung function tests between the PSE and placebo conditions. The differences were small and likely to be clinically insignificant. "


Statistically significant differences but extremely small differences, now why would they say that....

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...84/table/tbl3/

Oh maybe thats because for each of the tests there was a 1-2% increase in performance over placebo. I said it was a stimulant and pretty much useless, 1-2% is pretty much useless, my point being there is way better stuff out there.

Statistically significant!!

In athletics, we are always talking about small differences.

Imagine making Manny Pacquiao 2% faster. What good is a punch that misses by 1 inch? 1% in a 100 meter race means that I beat you by three feet. What is the spread between the top 40-yard dashes at the NFL combine?


Look at how the 100meter record has dropped over time. Until Usain Bolt, it was always coming down in one one-hundreth or two one-hundreth of a second.

I love how NSB's community college dropouts who drive a forklift now know better than PhD's who have worked in physiological research for 20 years.

[Gino Ros]

The NCAA bans caffeine. Probably the olympics too.

So, if I have a can of Pepsi or a coffee on the morning of a race, I will be banned?

Iced tea would earn me a two year ban?

Is that really your position? No... REALLY?

[Gino Ros]

Dont make him out to be some kind of idiot, he's completely right, there is a limit on caffeine levels in NCAA.

Limit is 15 mg/mL, Go over and you fail the drug test. You may be learning this for the first time but caffeine IS a drug

You are co-signing his idiocy?

http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Science-M...ohibited-List/


Questions & Answers on 2012 Prohibited List
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What major changes have been made to the 2012 List compared to the 2011 List?
What is the status of clenbuterol?
What is the status of caffeine?

The status of caffeine has not changed from last year. Caffeine was removed from the Prohibited List in 2004. Its use in sport is not prohibited.

Many experts believe that caffeine is ubiquitous in beverages and food and that reducing the threshold might therefore create the risk of sanctioning athletes for social or diet consumption of caffeine. In addition, caffeine is metabolized at very different rates in individuals.

Caffeine is part of WADA's Monitoring Program. This program includes substances which are not prohibited in sport, but which WADA monitors in order to detect patterns of misuse in sport.

The 2010 and 2011 Monitoring Programs did not reveal global specific patterns of misuse of caffeine in sport, though a significant increase in consumption in the athletic population is observed.
What is the status of actovegin?
What is a specified substance?

[Gino Ros]

You are co-signing his idiocy?

http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Science-M...ohibited-List/

What is the status of caffeine?

The status of caffeine has not changed from last year. Caffeine was removed from the Prohibited List in 2004. Its use in sport is not prohibited.

Period.

Caso cerrado.

[sdcluser]

Statistically significant!!

In athletics, we are always talking about small differences.

Imagine making Manny Pacquiao 2% faster. What good is a punch that misses by 1 inch? 1% in a 100 meter race means that I beat you by three feet. What is the spread between the top 40-yard dashes at the NFL combine?


Look at how the 100meter record has dropped over time. Until Usain Bolt, it was always coming down in one one-hundreth or two one-hundreth of a second.

I love how NSB's community college dropouts who drive a forklift now know better than PhD's who have worked in physiological research for 20 years.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If useless, then why they all be taking this stuff?

[Weebler I]

What percentage of Top Boxers are on any form of PED's?

Steroids
Testosterone
HGH
Clenbuterol
Diuretics
Stimulants
EPO
Etc

...all WADA banned substances[/SIZE]

What percentage of boxers are American? you'll be pretty close to your answer.

[Gino Ros]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If useless, then why they all be taking this stuff?

Exactly.

A bunch of excuses for cheaters because they know in their hearts that their favourite fighter uses that stuff.

[Fetta]

Alot more than we want to admit and alot of big time players in the sport i bet are. Sucks this happened cause no boxing for a minute but glad it did cause it opened the eyes of the boxing world that it is out there and better testing is needed