What % of Top Boxers Are On PED's?

[Gino Ros]

Well about 10% of MLB was on the infamous 2003 list of players that tested positive, and that was probably the peak. So I'd say 10-20% in boxing probably.

4C:

There were about 130 players "implicated" (strong evidence) from total
sources.

http://www.baseballssteroidera.com/bse-list-steroid-hgh-users-baseball.html

That is about the equivalent of five whole teams.


Now, it is generally acknowledged that the actual number is much higher because so many guys got away with it, and so many players did their dirt overseas.

[4Corners]

If you are using MLB as the benchmark, think about how many are smart enough to bypass the system, which in MLB was very easy to do. Then think about how much easier it would be to cheat in boxing, where promoters will cover up major stars that test positive.

I think it's a crazy and disheartening number.

I wonder how many guys in the 80's and 90's did??? That would really scare us probably. I've never asked you man, but do you think Manny is or ever has been on PED's??? Give me a timeline if you think so.

[Gino Ros]

No those are all "Prohibited Substances", which are then classified into smaller and more specific categories, like Stimulants, diuretics, anabolic agents, etc

:

Is a stimulant not a performance enhancer?

What are you saying here? You are trying to parse the language too finely, and you end up not making sense. The very reason that WADA prohibits them is because they may be used for performance enhancement purposes. That is the very foundation.

Which of those drugs are you saying have no performance enhancement /benefit?

And stop with the silly cartoons, or you won't participate in this discussion.

[bojangles1987]

I wonder how many guys in the 80's and 90's did??? That would really scare us probably. I've never asked you man, but do you think Manny is or ever has been on PED's??? Give me a timeline if you think so.

I don't know if he has, I would say there is plenty to suggest he isn't, but I would I've come to accept that its too easy to cheat to ever rule anyone out, let alone someone who took two years to agree to take blood tests.

If he did, obviously the timeline would have to be the move to welterweight, maybe at some point while at 130 when he started. I can't claim to know enough about PEDs to have an incredibly informed opinion.

[4Corners]

I don't know if he has, I would say there is plenty to suggest he isn't, but I would I've come to accept that its too easy to cheat to ever rule anyone out, let alone someone who took two years to agree to take blood tests.

If he did, obviously the timeline would have to be the move to welterweight, maybe at some point while at 130 when he started. I can't claim to know enough about PEDs to have an incredibly informed opinion.

I agree. I can't say yes or no. I started to think he was after a few things though....

It seems like in the first Marquez fight in 2004 to the 2nd Marquez fight in 2008, he just looked different to me. Yes, he went up in weight, but only by 4 lbs at that time, but he looked much more muscular and just way different for only a 4lb difference. It could be just weight gain though.

And then when he went up from 129 in March 2008 to 142 in December 2008, without losing any speed at all. And then when he refused testing for the longest time until fight day.

But you could never really know obviously.

[NEETzsche]

the only clean man in the sport is floyd money mayweather.

[Gino Ros]

Thing like Diuretics and weed are not performance enhancing

Its not that hard to understand

A diuretic helps you to accomplish something athletic ( make weight) more easily? Right?

How is that not a performance enhancer?

[Gino Ros]

Thing like Diuretics and weed are not performance enhancing

Its not that hard to understand

Also, diuretics are used to try to mask or flush away the evidence of other drug use.

[DeadLikeMe]

I've always thought about 60-70% of professional athletes use performance enhancers.

[Gino Ros]

Thing like Diuretics and weed are not performance enhancing

Its not that hard to understand

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2962812/

British Journal of Pharmacology

The abuse of diuretics as performance-enhancing drugs and masking agents in sport doping: pharmacology, toxicology and analysis


Amy B Cadwallader,1 Xavier de la Torre,1 Alessandra Tieri,1 and Francesco Botrè1,2
1Laboratorio Antidoping, Federazione Medico Sportiva Italiana, Largo Giulio Onesti, 1, Rome, Italy
2Dipartimento di Management e Tecnologie, ‘Sapienza’ Università di Roma, Via del Castro Laurenziano 9, Rome, Italy
Professor Francesco Botrè, Laboratorio Antidoping FMSI, Largo Giulio Onesti, 1, 00197 Rome RM, Italy. E-mail: francesco.botre@uniroma1.it
Received December 11, 2009; Revised January 29, 2010; Accepted February 19, 2010.
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Abstract
Diuretics are drugs that increase the rate of urine flow and sodium excretion to adjust the volume and composition of body fluids. There are several major categories of this drug class and the compounds vary greatly in structure, physicochemical properties, effects on urinary composition and renal haemodynamics, and site and mechanism of action. Diuretics are often abused by athletes to excrete water for rapid weight loss and to mask the presence of other banned substances. Because of their abuse by athletes, diuretics have been included on The World Anti-Doping Agency's (WADA) list of prohibited substances; the use of diuretics is banned both in competition and out of competition and diuretics are routinely screened for by anti-doping laboratories. This review provides an overview of the pharmacology and toxicology of diuretics and discusses their application in sports. The most common analytical strategies currently followed by the anti-doping laboratories accredited by the WADA are discussed along with the challenges laboratories face for the analysis of this diverse class of drugs.
Keywords: diuretics; masking agents; doping analysis; GC/MS, LC/MS-MS
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Types

Anabolic steroids are a type of performance enhancing drug that builds muscle mass. They are a hormone that increases the appetite, bone growth, and protein synthesis needed for the rapid development of muscle tissue. Anabolic steroids have a number of serious side effects, including a lowering of the voice, increased hair growth, and a shrinking of the testicles in men.

Powerful diuretics — which increase the frequency of urination — are used to artificially speed weight loss to enhance performance. Users can suffer from troubling side effects, including light-headedness and even fainting spells. Particularly controversial is the fact that users are often young people in sports where weight can be a critical factor, such as gymnastics or wrestling.

Performance enhancing drugs are not limited to sports, however. Beta blockers, a drug primarily used to manage heart problems, but which also lowers the effects of stress hormones, has found relatively widespread use among musicians. These drugs lessen the body's "fight or flight" response, which can arise under the stress of a concert or audition. Taking the drug helps musicians manage their stress and approach their performances with confidence.