Floyd-Cotto Highlights Video

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Not particularly.

But Nacho has been around the game a long time he's worked with small fighters he worked with bigger fighters. He's took fighters through various weight classes.

I would think someone as experienced and been around the game aslong as Nacho would be able to know how to gain weight properly.

In my opinion fighters are like F1 cars. Every tweak matters and every mistake is costly. I don't know too much on piss, and have read that it does contain nutrients but then so do plenty of drinks.

What you can do to one fighter is completely different to another also. You can teach one guy a move, but he will never be able to do it, while others can. You can put weight on another guy, but that doesn't mean the same will work for the other.

This is why it is vital for most boxers to move up slowly. As Floyd said, it took him years to jump up to his weight. Jumping up 8 lbs for the first time is quite a large step at that weight. Especially against Floyd.

[Sweet Pea 50]

I had it scored 116-112, Mayweather.

Cotto fought a hard nosed fight, and can walk with his held high. No shame in losing to one of the best, if not the best p4p fighters in the sport. It was a convincing UD, but a EARNED one.

[Uns]

He didn't just drink Urine for that fight.

And I don't recall where Nacho said Marqeuz was slow in the build up.

My point on the piss is that there are other options for nutrients and piss was not the best option. As if it was a mistake.

I just found the 24/7, he didn't say he was slow. With 2 weeks left, he said.

Speed, Speed, Okay.

He still needs time to become a little bit quicker.

His current speed isn't yet enough to beat the best fighter in the world.

Speed was his concern.


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[IronDanHamza]

My point on the piss is that there are other options for nutrients and piss was not the best option. As if it was a mistake.

I just found the 24/7, he didn't say he was slow. With 2 weeks left, he said.

Speed, Speed, Okay.

He still needs time to become a little bit quicker.

His current speed isn't yet enough to beat the best fighter in the world.

Speed was his concern.


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Urine wasn't a mistake. It just literally did nothing for him.

And, I didn't think Nacho said he was slow.

If I remember correctly those concerns weren't there for him by the time the fight happened.

[Elotero]

I find it very hard to believe to a Veteran like Nacho and a veteran himself like Marquez would "Incorrectly" gain weight for the biggest fight of his life.

Thats kind of moot when Mayweather didn't make weight. He had the advantage of not only being at WW for many years but failed to make the contract weight. Ever watch Castillo/Corrales 2?

Besides, someone else pointed out that Marquez has the technical ability, he just needed to add weight as well as speed and power correctly to be able to keep up with Mayweather. Clearly they didnt do as good a job they thought they did in the Mayweather fight otherwise they would never have contracted that job out to Manuel Heredia for his second trip to WW to face Manny.

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Urine wasn't a mistake. It just literally did nothing for him.

And, I didn't think Nacho said he was slow.

If I remember correctly those concerns weren't there for him by the time the fight happened.

Urine is a mistake when you drink it thinking it does something and it does nothing.

I commented Nacho did not say he was slow when I saw the video. However he said at least 2 week pre fight that Marquez was a little bit too slow to fight Mayweather. I dunno what happened by fight time.

So do you feel jumping 8 lbs in weight, in boxing, even with experience means you are not going to do it wrong?

He even says:

Márquez had problems moving up in weight to fight Mayweather – why do you think this is OK?

JUAN MANUEL MÁRQUEZ: I had problems moving up but I would rather fight Pacquiao three or four more times than fight Mayweather once. Mayweather is a defensive fighter – he doesn’t let you fight, but we know Pacquiao comes to fight and he is a spectacular fighter, he is always going to give you a fight and that’s why I know it will be a war between us.

http://www.*************.com/headlin...ll-transcript/

I recall an article on here about the weight issue but forgot the title. I believe Nacho mentioned the weight and how they changed it for Pac. It was a little more indepth I think.

They worked with Conte VS Pac who I feel also helped quite a bit.

[IronDanHamza]

Urine is a mistake when you drink it thinking it does something and it does nothing.

I commented Nacho did not say he was slow when I saw the video. However he said at least 2 week pre fight that Marquez was a little bit too slow to fight Mayweather. I dunno what happened by fight time.

So do you feel jumping 8 lbs in weight, in boxing, even with experience means you are not going to do it wrong?

He even says:

Márquez had problems moving up in weight to fight Mayweather – why do you think this is OK?

JUAN MANUEL MÁRQUEZ: I had problems moving up but I would rather fight Pacquiao three or four more times than fight Mayweather once. Mayweather is a defensive fighter – he doesn’t let you fight, but we know Pacquiao comes to fight and he is a spectacular fighter, he is always going to give you a fight and that’s why I know it will be a war between us.

http://www.*************.com/headlin...ll-transcript/

I recall an article on here about the weight issue but forgot the title. I believe Nacho mentioned the weight and how they changed it for Pac. It was a little more indepth I think.

They worked with Conte VS Pac who I feel also helped quite a bit.

I personally just think that's an excuse.

As soon as the fight finished he said weight was the issue despite saying he felt in the shape of his life before the fight.

But that's just my opinion.

[slackblick]

stop making excuses for marquez (and pac for getting his ass beat by marquez).....marquez even had additional time to adjust to the new weight for floyd and still got beat. you don't wanna give floyd credit....fine. just admit how overrated and how much of a hypejob pac is while your at it. pac+@rds/floyd haters want it both ways.

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I personally just think that's an excuse.

As soon as the fight finished he said weight was the issue despite saying he felt in the shape of his life before the fight.

But that's just my opinion.

It very well could be an excuse for sure. Personally I felt that he looked softer than usual but then again the fight before he had similar fat.

Mayweather certainly outclassed him though.

In the written interview, he talks about Mayweather's size, or was it another. I can see why he did/sort of avoid Khan.

[renren40]

But you were talking about speed......Floyd, though Marquez is a great combination puncher, is still much faster when he throws any punch than Marquez.

Too bad JMM's combination punching didn't come into play against Floyd. And don't use weight as your excuse, JMM arguably just beat Manny at the same weight. And if you are saying Floyd weighing in at 146 lbs was the reason, you're even in bigger denial than I thought you are.

JMM did not beat Manny

Manny and JMM has one draw

Manny won the second

Manny won the third

Manny has 4 KD's on JMM

Juanma is only good at being a boring as counterpuncher
Yes, a fighter can win rounds by waiting for the other fighter to initiate

Judges and fans pick up on that ****
and take away points for not providing more action