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Originally posted by Roman Moreno View PostCurious as to why you didn't bold that it was an issue? Weird.
Anyways, in what you posted he was talking about price the cost being too expensive. But, again VADA is cheaper than WADA and VADA was up and running when Froch fight was happening. So you agree that excuse doesn't fly right?
Also he said he wanted it implemented for Froch? Why would he wanted implemented for Froch when apparently it was already contractual agreed upon. According to Ward team? That's contradiction. Did Ward team lied about about it having contractual agreed upon? Like Ward lied about Victor Conte?
Again maybe not the same excuses and lies or as many. But, an excuse is an excuse and a lie is a lie.
He doesn't get the benefit of the doubt.
If VADA was so legit at the time, then why do you keep referring to Rick Reeno's article about how they implemented WADA for the SS? In other words, at the time, if the promoters knew they could save money and get the same test results as WADA via VADA, why not just make VADA mandatory?
It sounds like at the time, the SS implemented WADA for a few of the SS fights. Dirrel vs AA didn't have WADA; not sure why you're making it out to be like when Ward vs AA didn't have it, this was completely out of the norm.
Anyway, back to the point at hand. Unless you're within Team Ward's circle, how do you know what testing protocol he was aware of when he was giving an interview about WADA? His whole stance on WADA was it was very expensive; which it was/is. Now that we know of VADA's effectiveness, I hope it's implemented in future fights. But to sit here and say:
1. Ward is wrong for not saying anything about VADA in an interview he was doing about WADA means he's roiding is reaching.
2. Calling Ward a liar because he mentioned something about having Froch tested when according to you, it was already mandated for Froch to be tested isn't necessarily a "LIE". Maybe he didn't understand his 50 page contract or however many pages are in fighter contracts. You are really reaching to the tenth power here.
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Originally posted by ONEBOXGo read the other thread they said both khan and peterson was asked to give a sample of their urine during the press in la or something. Now will u stfu??
Did you read the article?
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Lol, as soon as this Peterson got cauught with something story came out I called right off the bat it was gonna be test, and his team was gonna claim TRT with a 'low testosterone'.
****in joke, not only that he admitted to taking it before the first Khan fight. I seriously used to really like Peterson but he just made himself look like a fool for getting caught after demanding testing.
In my eyes anyone, and I seriously mean anyone is suspect of using something at this point.
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Originally posted by Russian Crushin View PostSaid his lawyer
Like I said before, if this is true, my beef is with Peterson, but more with the commission for not catching the cheater "before" he inflicted punishment in December.
If this is the first time the commission didn't catch a dirty fighter, that would be one thing. But based on the fact that they have a track record for not catching dirty fighters is why I actually believe that Peterson took it "before" the fight in December.
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Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View PostTeam Peterson said they used Testorone Pellets "before" the fight in December and beat the test; which explains why he tested positive in March.
Did you read the article?
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Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View PostBased on an ESPN article, a doctor said this as well.
Like I said before, if this is true, my beef is with Peterson, but more with the commission for not catching the cheater "before" he inflicted punishment in December.
If this is the first time the commission didn't catch a dirty fighter, that would be one thing. But based on the fact that they have a track record for not catching dirty fighters is why I actually believe that Peterson took it "before" the fight in December.
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Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View PostIn the interview, Ward was talking about WADA. Notice how he mentioned what Mayweather had been doing for previous fights. How do you know Ward knew about VADA or even if he felt VADA was legit or not at the time?
Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View PostIf VADA was so legit at the time, then why do you keep referring to Rick Reeno's article about how they implemented WADA for the SS? In other words, at the time, if the promoters knew they could save money and get the same test results as WADA via VADA, why not just make VADA mandatory?
Sauerland had it under contract a year before Floyd even came out of retirement to fight JMM that every fighter who signs for them or a Sauerland promotional event would have to go under NADA(One of WADA agency) testing. Which includes random blood and urine testing.
That's why AA fights with Taylor and Froch which were solely Sauerland promoted events had the test. And, that is why Sauerland asked Ward for a WADA agency -which is USADA, same as the one that Floyd uses- to handle the testing. Because again they have work together for a couple years.
Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View PostIt sounds like at the time, the SS implemented WADA for a few of the SS fights. Dirrel vs AA didn't have WADA; not sure why you're making it out to be like when Ward vs AA didn't have it, this was completely out of the norm.
The AA-Ward fight was a co-promoted event. Which they had to negotiate venue, ref, judges, and lets be honest AA had lost 2 out of 3 and was looking crap. And, Ward was dominating the tournament. Pretty sure they feared Ward. So unlike with Dirrell. They wanted this for Ward and asked for it while negotiating. Again unlike Dirrell. However, it became an "ISSUE"
Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View PostAnyway, back to the point at hand. Unless you're within Team Ward's circle, how do you know what testing protocol he was aware of when he was giving an interview about WADA? His whole stance on WADA was it was very expensive; which it was/is. Now that we know of VADA's effectiveness, I hope it's implemented in future fights. But to sit here and say:
Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post1. Ward is wrong for not saying anything about VADA in an interview he was doing about WADA means he's roiding is reaching.
Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post2. Calling Ward a liar because he mentioned something about having Froch tested when according to you, it was already mandated for Froch to be tested isn't necessarily a "LIE". Maybe he didn't understand his 50 page contract or however many pages are in fighter contracts. You are really reaching to the tenth power here.now who's the one that's reaching?
OK Ward didn't understand. But, my point with this was the Ward team, Goosen Tutor promotions came out and said that they had a contractual agreed upon for the whole Super and the finals with Froch. But, that was a LIE by Ward team. But, again lying from that team is nothing new.
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