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  • Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
    So a new excuse for Ward not accepting OST during negotations, not after like Froch-Ward or Hopkins-Pascal, no not after but during. Would put him outside his comfort zone. Cool excuse fine.

    BTW, why did Ward team lied about having it under contractual agreement that OST would be taken place in the S6? Lie after lie, excuse after excuse. And, somehow fans not seeing a problem? OK.

    It doesn't matter, it really doesn't. If you think it's OK for Ward to say thanks but no thanks to OST during NEGOTIATIONS. Then Ward did nothing wrong and he should get the benefit of the doubt. I'm done with this subject.
    You don't understand how negotiations work. Fighters try to get in the driver's seat and don't like to bend to the other guy's demand.

    I don't remember Ward saying that.

    You're acting like they were negotiationg everything but like I said, they all signed a contract when the S6 started. They only negotiated a few things on top of that but most of the contractual agreement was set in stone at the start of the tournament. Ward didn't take OST for the Kessler and Green fights, why would he do something extra for the AA fight if he doesn't have to? Negotiations 101.

    Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
    Question

    WHats your stance on Pac refusing it in 2009?
    I was fine with it. Floyd asked for something extraordinary out of the blue and had no evidence to suggest that Pac was juicing. I didn't think giving some blood was a big deal but I didn't blame Pac for refusing because it was unheard of. Basically I was neutral in this whole debacle.

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    • Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
      Exactly what does that mean?

      Let's be straight-forward.
      That goes for everybody. I'm me and everybody else is them.

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      • Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
        What about the fighters that dont give a stance on the subject AKA 99.99% of boxers?
        How do you know where they stand if they don't speak on it? Some boxers probably don't want to be politically involved but for the right price I'm sure the majority of the sport would take random blood/urine tests. Whoever disagrees and doesn't then it is natural that they become suspects. I just don't understand how could a professional athlete performing on the highest level of any sport would deny or have a problem giving blood? ***** never made any sense to me and goes for EVERYONE.

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        • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
          How do you know where they stand if they don't speak on it? Some boxers probably don't want to be politically involved but for the right price I'm sure the majority of the sport would take random blood/urine tests. Whoever disagrees and doesn't then it is natural that they become suspects. I just don't understand how could a professional athlete performing on the highest level of any sport would deny or have a problem giving blood? ***** never made any sense to me and goes for EVERYONE.

          Is Peterson a cheater to you?

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          • Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
            And this is the commission Pac and his followers want everyone to go by?

            Why didn't the "commission" catch these Testosterone pellets "BEFORE" the first fight?
            First fight was in Washington D.C., which is the worst commission in America.

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            • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
              How do you know where they stand if they don't speak on it? Some boxers probably don't want to be politically involved but for the right price I'm sure the majority of the sport would take random blood/urine tests. Whoever disagrees and doesn't then it is natural that they become suspects. I just don't understand how could a professional athlete performing on the highest level of any sport would deny or have a problem giving blood? ***** never made any sense to me and goes for EVERYONE.
              It doesnt matter whether a fighter said he would take the test or not, it doesnt make then any cleaner or less suspect, case in point, Peterson.

              Unless they are tested, they ALL have the same probability of being on drugs. No one guy is less su****ious then the other if they havent taken the test. That include Ward and Sergio, who by the way have both avoided the test as well.

              Everybody is a suspect equally.

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              • Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic View Post
                Is Peterson a cheater to you?
                YES and I been said that some posts ago on this same thread. Why would you think I would not say he is a cheater? Because he is black? That's the bull***** I'm talking about. Bias thinking makes you think everyone is bias towards a certain fighter because of the same race.

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                • Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
                  It doesnt matter whether a fighter said he would take the test or not, it doesnt make then any cleaner or less suspect, case in point, Peterson.

                  Unless they are tested, they ALL have the same probability of being on drugs. No one guy is less su****ious then the other if they havent taken the test. That include Ward and Sergio, who by the way have both avoided the test as well.

                  Everybody is a suspect equally.
                  How it is looking in the sport of boxing is that everyone is guilty until proven innocent. I feel the sport as a whole can do something about it but the majority don't care. I do not support, make excuses or back cheaters and that is what it was looking like yesterday when I was going back and forth with your boy. I'm just weighing in with my thoughts.

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                  • Lol at russian the racist and Co. trying to turn this into some kind of race war.

                    Peterson was caught cheating. Shame on him. But more shame on the boxing commission for continuing to allow cheaters to fight; which was my only point in this entire thread.

                    Everyone is suspect of cheating until they take the test; that's true. But to compare what Ward's done with what Pac's done is down right foolish. I've already explained why.

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                    • Originally posted by Mr. Ryan View Post
                      First fight was in Washington D.C., which is the worst commission in America.
                      How so?????

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