Comments Thread For: NSAC: Peterson Not Licensed, Took Testosterone Pellets

[DeadLikeMe]

About this entire blood/urine thing. Some things are better detected via blood testing while others are better detected via urinalysis, so really both used together is the best method of testing. Correct me if I am wrong, but these are the samples taken from before the first Khan-Peterson fight in DC? Or is this a VADA or NSAC issued test that was recently failed? There has been so much misinformation and threads about this I'm not sure I have the entire story straight (if anyone does.)

[deejd]

Exactly these guys are over here saying "Yay, the urine test caught Peterson".

NO! If done correctly, how drug testing is suppose to work, a legit drug tests catches a cheater "BEFORE" the fight, not several months afterwards.

What's the purpose of having a drug test if the cheater won't be caught before hand but 6 months later?

Someone please tell me, what the hell is the point of that?

I see what you're saying. It's weird for a urine test to catch him now but not then.

[Smash]

Not content to ruin fights with blatent biassed BS scoring and officiating time and time again you got to watch out for the ole PED hook as well, oh those americans..... its time that PED testing was beefed up for ALL fights to make sure things are on the level, because at the moment they are not, people are getting away with more than dodgy decisions and it needs to stop, having said that officials like roth and trowbridge etc keep getting the big fights so probably nothing will change unless the cash flow is changed


Lets get some fair unbiased officials for fights and punish those who cant get it right as well as random testing as standard and lets see whats what, scary for some id say

[Russian Crushin]

The thing that p1sses me off is the fact that Peterson's camp knew about the failed A sample for a month now and failed to mention anything to GBP.

That way atleast they would have had enough time to get their 5hit together and even enough time to find a decent replacement to step in when the 5hit hits the fan

Its on purpose, get close to the fight as possible and then reveal it. Gives GBP few options

THis is what will happen. Peterson's lawyers will argue that a doctor prescribed him the steroids for some crap. THen they will argue that there was inconsistency with the testing procedures since the B sample was tested almost 20 days after the A

This will result in NSAC issuing him a license and with the fight only a week a way, put pressure on GBP to keep the fight on since it will be big money and no good opponent will be found in a week.

All this is being done on purpose

[BuckToothed]

He was not caught by the urine test that Pac agreed to. VADA uses a CIR method of detection. T:E is the test that is the "standard" and has become elementary to beat. I have no dog in this fight, however facts are facts...

Pac agreed to the unlimited USADA random urine tests without any cutoff.
It was the blood tests that he wanted a cutoff initially.

Isn't the method USADA employ for urine testing the same as VADA?

[deejd]

About this entire blood/urine thing. Some things are better detected via blood testing while others are better detected via urinalysis. Correct me if I am wrong, but these are the samples taken from before the first Khan-Peterson fight in DC? Or is this a VADA or NSAC issued test that was recently failed? There has been so much misinformation and threads about this I'm not sure I have the entire story straight (if anyone does.)

Recently... one from March 19th and another from April 12th. His March samples failed but his April testing passed.... strange man, really strange.

[-PBP-]

Prescription defense being used? The fight may go on. I don't know what to think about that

[BoxingGenius27]

You're missing his point. The one who needs things to be spelled out for is you.

He is saying urine testing caught him. Therefor random urine testing is sufficient enough as evident.

D.C didn't do random urine testing. Therefor Peterson could have cleaned it out his system already. But, if D.C would have done random urine testing they would have caught him as evident right now.

Therefor his point random urine testing is not inconsistent.

Now sure how much simplistic I can make his point out to you.

My point is did urine test/commission test catch Vargas, Peterson, Jones, Mosley, ect the first time around?

These are "commission" tests are they not?

Point is, we should've implemented random testing ions ago (including blood).

There have been posters that have advocated regular commissioning tests for boxing matches which is wrong. We obviously need the additional tests.

[Ruderic21]

No champion should defend his title without VADA drug testing, and any boxer within top 10 should be subjected to random drug testing. Especially those from countries were roids are sold at their local pharmacies!

[Roman Moreno]

He also had OTHER things that should have triggered.

Modafinil, etc. Shane was on the full-boat BALCO program.

Not just The cream and the clear and EPO..

Well that would have depended on how high his testosterone level was.

If it was just 5.5x above the normal nothing would have triggered the test. Because, at that time WADA was still using what Nevada is using now 6:1 T/E ratio. They didn't change it to 4:1 until 2005.

And, FWIW, 4:1 might still be a little too high.