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Originally posted by edgarg View PostMOsley didn't refuse. he was answering a question from a reporter as to whether he'd fight Mayweather next. I think it was just after a Vargas fight. Mosley said he'd already long arranged a vacation with his family who, he hadn't seen for months, andalso needed dental attention for a loose front tooth. That was all, he neither refused not accepted. There was no offer. it was a journalist's question.
I don't recall Mosley ever actually refusing any fight from any fighter/manager. He fought everybody, never ducked anyone.
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Originally posted by wengz2002 View PostTake Mayweather's (false) insistence that if Manny Pacquiao would simply agree to random blood and urine testing, the fight would be made just as easy. His actions - not words - have proven this to be a deceitful assertion. Drug testing has been a non-issue for a year as the Filipino camp has agreed to the more stringent regime. The latter is an incontrovertible fact.
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Originally posted by Big Dunn View PostIt wasn't just the weight. Cotto wasn't alowed to rehydrate normally. If you don't think not being able to rehydrate affects performance and stamina then you are simply being a tool. DOes it mean cotto woulod've beaten manny? No. But if it wasn't a big deal, why did manny make it part of the contract?
My recollection is that there was a penalty for weighing more than 145 and The Roach said that if Cotto came in even barely over 147, the fight was off. This showed me that it was more to do with making a fight than a championship. I don't recall any restriction on rehydrating, although there could have been. I think someone was saying that Cotto looked about 8-10 lbs more than MannyP.
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Originally posted by edgarg View PostCotto gave the "never sacrifice" crap in the run up to the Mayweather fight, as part of "a better Cotto now that when I fought Pacquiao". I suppose you didn't notice that after the Pacquiao fight he said that the weight was no problem to him. In his previous fight he weighted just 1 lb more, so why should it have been a problem he was a welterweight, and previously a 140 lb champion.
This said, this guy Fitzsimmons, seems to me like our favourite poster Murkaman, just with better language-oiling. And he did a great job on Mayweather, greasing him up one side and down the other like a Thanksgiving turkey.
Switching from idol worship to venemous attack, he bashed 67 year old Bob Sheridan,
very patronisingly referring to him as "the old man". The Colonel has done the commentatihg for just about every championship fight ever since late 1960's, except for those done by Jimmy Lennon, and Jimmy Lennon Jr. Reputedly around 1000 championship fights, over 10,000 in all, he's a historical boxing figure, and the best blow-by blow guy in the game.
The story of him insisting on leaving his hospital bed after a major heart attack, to work a major fight, with a blood pressure cuff on, and his doctor sitting behind, keeping an eye on the fluctuating pressure, is unique.
Usually I don't read even half of Fitzsimmon's crap but this time wanted to see just how far he was going. I saw.........
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Originally posted by edgarg View PostMOsley didn't refuse. he was answering a question from a reporter as to whether he'd fight Mayweather next. I think it was just after a Vargas fight. Mosley said he'd already long arranged a vacation with his family who, he hadn't seen for months, andalso needed dental attention for a loose front tooth. That was all, he neither refused not accepted. There was no offer. it was a journalist's question.
I don't recall Mosley ever actually refusing any fight from any fighter/manager. He fought everybody, never ducked anyone.
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Originally posted by edgarg View PostI didn't know that Cotto wasn't allowed to rehydrate properly, are you sure? However, he said the weight didn't affect him at all and he wouldn't have taken the fight if he'd thought it might have.. Anyway, although not the best scenario if true, he still was only a legit welterweight, and MannyP was a jumped up 130-35 lber with only 3 fights above 130.
My recollection is that there was a penalty for weighing more than 145 and The Roach said that if Cotto came in even barely over 147, the fight was off. This showed me that it was more to do with making a fight than a championship. I don't recall any restriction on rehydrating, although there could have been. I think someone was saying that Cotto looked about 8-10 lbs more than MannyP.
It comes down to how you judge the weight and rehydration limitations. If you say they had no effect, well so be it. But real fans, and although we may not always agree yhour posts suggest you are, know that in combination they affect a fighters stamina and durability.
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Originally posted by Big Dunn View PostWEight and rehydration clauses were in the contract. This is common knowledge. Doesn't matter what weight manny was.
It comes down to how you judge the weight and rehydration limitations. If you say they had no effect, well so be it. But real fans, and although we may not always agree yhour posts suggest you are, know that in combination they affect a fighters stamina and durability.
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