Can someone explain how Mayweather is past it?

[SkillspayBills]

Just look at Floyd......say against Corrales and tell me he hasn't lost a step. He is still above everyone else but before it was like prime Tiger Woods vs the field.

[Andyreww]

Just look at Floyd......say against Corrales and tell me he hasn't lost a step. He is still above everyone else but before it was like prime Tiger Woods vs the field.

I think he is alot more physically talented against Corrales than he is now, his style is completely different, I think mentally he's alot smarter and probably a better overall boxer than he was against corrales

granted he was better physically at 135lbs than at welterweight in my opinion and at welterweight he is fighting better bigger opponents.

[IronDanHamza]

No one is calling him shot. That's the problem, too many people think past prime means shot. Past prime just means he isn't as good as he was at his absolute best, which is inevitable when talking about a 35 year old fighter.

Exactly.

Like you said, just becuase he's passed his best doesn't mean he's shot.

Although he's passed his best, he's still the best fighter in the world. IMO.

But he's obviously not the same fighter he was back in 2006-2007.

[KickAzz]

Just look at Floyd......say against Corrales and tell me he hasn't lost a step. He is still above everyone else but before it was like prime Tiger Woods vs the field.

Can't really compare the two... Different styles and different physiologic and different mentality

[T-97]

To be fair the only difference I really notice from him is his Balance isnt as good as it used to be. I don't think theres really any difference between him and for people to call him a shot fighter is hilarious.

No one has said he's shot. There is a massive difference between past prime and shot. Mayweather is 35 and has been training hard all his life, he's not in his physical peak anymore, although he isn't way past it either.

[Andyreww]

Exactly.

Like you said, just becuase he's passed his best doesn't mean he's shot.

Although he's passed his best, he's still the best fighter in the world. IMO.

But he's obviously not the same fighter he was back in 2006-2007.

I dunno, maybe not physically he isnt. I think he's a better boxer nowadays though patient better aggression and smarter, he didn't look that great against Hatton in 2007, looked incredible against Marquez, bad against Mosley and now amazing against Cotto

I think it's the quality of the opponent that brings out the best in him.

[THE REED]

Handspeed and lateral movement is slower, reflexes slower by a bit... Foot speed slightly slower as well.

[Andyreww]

No one has said he's shot. There is a massive difference between past prime and shot. Mayweather is 35 and has been training hard all his life, he's not in his physical peak anymore, although he isn't way past it either.

Nah, I've read a few people on hear calling him "old"

I believe roach said he was old aswell and lost all mobility, I'd agree that he's not the best physically he's ever been, but I think he makes it up with his new come foward style.

I don't think hes a worst fighter than he was when he fought hatton in 2007.

[THE REED]

By the way slower doesnt mean slow.

If a car runs a 10 second 1/4 mile, and comes back the next week to run a 10.5.... Is that car slower?

Yes.

Is that car slow?

No.

[IronDanHamza]

I dunno, maybe not physically he isnt. I think he's a better boxer nowadays though patient better aggression and smarter, he didn't look that great against Hatton in 2007, looked incredible against Marquez, bad against Mosley and now amazing against Cotto

I think it's the quality of the opponent that brings out the best in him.

I thought he looked great in all of those fights.

I think his peak was 06-07.

In 09-10 he was passed his peak but still close to prime.

I think after the 16th month lay off, he's clearly not the fighter he was in 2006. It's just obvious.

A fighter who's been a pro for 16 years and heading toward 36 just simply isn't going to be in his prime.