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Am I the only one who thinks judah beats jmm???
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Originally posted by Uns View PostCotto low balled him.
Mayweather didn't get hurt if you mean the KD.
He didn't hurt Khan because Khan used his size and speed to land and imposed that.
JMM is a counter puncher, not an in and out fighter. It plays more for Judah to face someone who waits.
It is true that JMM hasn't been stopped, but i have no doubt that Judah could if the opportunity arose.
I don't think you should use triangle theories they way you are doing it. You don't seem to understand they all are different.Originally posted by Uns View PostI was referring to the recent Pac fight obviously. Pac couldn't drop JMM yet Kats did?
I am trying to say that you shouldn't base it on this guy did that blah blah. Pac is far better than Kats. That's why the triangle theory on Judah couldn't hurt Khan doesn't work for at least me.
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Originally posted by Roman Moreno View PostI would take Herrera>>>Paris any day of the week.
Be honest with me carnal. La neta entre tu y yo. Are you hyping this up so when JMM trashes Judah, like he suppose to you would give him more credit for this mismatch than he deserves?
And, yes I would rather see JMM against top prime big strong fighter than a really past prime inconsistent mental midget who fools people with his flashiness.
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Originally posted by Steak View PostI never said I was picking Judah.
But I dont think its absurd that Judah beats Marquez, either. Marquez does get hit pretty easily sometimes, and I can see that left uppercut dropping him.
If Judah can put him on the defensive, and then potshot by using his speed and, well, basically run away...I could see Marquez losing.
Not that I would pick Judah, for the reasons you stated above. But stranger things have happened in boxing, and I would consider Judah a live underdog, even though he is past prime.
Judah has always been a "live underdog" and he has always disappointed. And, there are much better live underdogs out there than Zab F'ing Judah.
And, I know the cliche that anything can happen in boxing. But, JMM losses to Judah than he isn't as good as I thought he was plain and simple. He has no business to losing to a fighter like Judah none whatsoever.
JMM, skill level, IQ, counter punching, technique, stamina, more importantly time and accuracy is levels above Judah. Zab only has flashiness over him.
It's just tiresome that it seems Zab will never go away no matter how many times he fails and gets beat by true top level fighters, no matter if he looks like crap or not, people act like he has a shot. They will never learn their lesson when it comes to Judah.
Again if it's a live underdog we're talking about. There are better live underdogs out there than Zab Judah.
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Originally posted by tupapa View PostWhen does marquez trash any one. I would rather see two cagey veterans going at it. Than marquez vs a nobody. And if you wanted to see the latter rios who is actually proven would be much better.
JMM has trashed fighter even fights that he struggled in like Diaz and Katsidis he ended up trashing them. Did he not?
It's cool, you just want to make sure JMM gets a lot of credit even more than he deserves when he ends up beating Judah. I get it, it's fine.
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Originally posted by Roman Moreno View PostI said Rios, what are you talking about. I want Rios-JMM, but I would also take JMM-Alvarado over this nonsense.
JMM has trashed fighter even fights that he struggled in like Diaz and Katsidis he ended up trashing them. Did he not?
It's cool, you just want to make sure JMM gets a lot of credit even more than he deserves when he ends up beating Judah. I get it, it's fine.
And that last part has nothing to do with it.
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Originally posted by Roman Moreno View PostI'm pretty sure you're not. I'm pretty sure there are still plenty of fans who haven't learned their lesson. Who buy into the flashiness and still believe in Judah mystique.
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Judah apologists never learn that their man just isnt that good.....LOL...Judah will be somewhat impressive early, until JMM figures him out/lands a hard right/cuts him....then Judah gets his ass whooped
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