Am I the only one who thinks judah beats jmm???

[Roman Moreno]

Stylistically khan gives anyone trouble. If you can't hurt him, he is taking rounds.

Nacho even said Khan is wrong for JMM.

Judah has lost to so,e very good fighters, but if he does hurt you, which IMO he can with JMM, then he is one of the best finishes out there.

He couldn't hurt Khan but it's going to be able to hurt JMM?

Anyways, he hurt Cotto, he hurt Floyd it seems. Didn't finish them.

Even if he hurts JMM are you insinuating that he will stop a fighter that hasn't been stopped before?

He isn't stopping JMM.

[Steak]

He lost to Spinks as well. Keep up.

Yes he got dropped by Katsidis and struggled with Diaz still fought on even terms against a much better fighter than Judah in Pac. Arguably got the better of Pac, who has power and speed which could hurt JMM. But, we saw how that went and Judah isn't half the fighter of Pac.

Styles make fights, and the Judah of today is not too unlike Freddie Norwood, who Marquez fought a million years ago. It was pretty much a stinker, but Marquez did struggle against him and got dropped.

Marquez is getting older every day. I wont be overly surprised if he gets upset by some live underdog. Someone like Judah is never reliable though, and even if he were to theoretically dominate, Marquez has the ring smarts to adjust, whilst Judah has the mentality to quit and complain.

Anyways, what was my point? Oh yeah...Marquez shows amazing performances against Pacquiao because he matches up with him well in a number of ways, but meanwhile he struggles with significantly worse fighters like Chris John, Norwood, even guys like Jaca and Terdsak tagged him way more than you would normally expect. You can never be too sure in boxing.

[Roman Moreno]

so are you really telling me you want to see a legend like marquez fight a nobody who is not even that good in alvarado?

I would take Herrera>>>Paris any day of the week.

Be honest with me carnal. La neta entre tu y yo. Are you hyping this up so when JMM trashes Judah, like he suppose to you would give him more credit for this mismatch than he deserves?

And, yes I would rather see JMM against top prime big strong fighter than a really past prime inconsistent mental midget who fools people with his flashiness.

[tupapa]

Styles make fights, and the Judah of today is not too unlike Freddie Norwood, who Marquez fought a million years ago. It was pretty much a stinker, but Marquez did struggle against him and got dropped.

Marquez is getting older every day. I wont be overly surprised if he gets upset by some live underdog. Someone like Judah is never reliable though, and even if he were to theoretically dominate, Marquez has the ring smarts to adjust, whilst Judah has the mentality to quit and complain.

Anyways, what was my point? Oh yeah...Marquez shows amazing performances against Pacquiao because he matches up with him well in a number of ways, but meanwhile he struggles with significantly worse fighters like Chris John, Norwood, even guys like Jaca and Terdsak tagged him way more than you would normally expect. You can never be too sure in boxing.

Exactly. Marquez even though he is one of my favorite fighters struggles with almost every fighter he fights no matter if its pac or that bum he just fought. He struggles till he adjust

[Roman Moreno]

Styles make fights, and the Judah of today is not too unlike Freddie Norwood, who Marquez fought a million years ago. It was pretty much a stinker, but Marquez did struggle against him and got dropped.

Marquez is getting older every day. I wont be overly surprised if he gets upset by some live underdog. Someone like Judah is never reliable though, and even if he were to theoretically dominate, Marquez has the ring smarts to adjust, whilst Judah has the mentality to quit and complain.

Anyways, what was my point? Oh yeah...Marquez shows amazing performances against Pacquiao because he matches up with him well in a number of ways, but meanwhile he struggles with significantly worse fighters like Chris John, Norwood, even guys like Jaca and Terdsak tagged him way more than you would normally expect. You can never be too sure in boxing.

But, Judah is much more mentally weak fighter than all those guys you named. For all his tools, he is too inconsistent. Every fighter you named are consistent even if they're a lesser fighter.

Inconsistent fighters won't beat JMM, and, if Judah is not having his way after 4 or 5 rounds he will fold and give up. He has no plan B, he is a ****** fighter. Plain ******, doesn't have the smarts to or consistency to be competitive with JMM.

And, yes JMM is getting old. But Judah is no spring chicken himself. He very past prime as well. Maybe if this was a prime Judah OK. But, it isn't.

[Uns]

He lost to Spinks as well. Keep up.

Yes he got dropped by Katsidis and struggled with Diaz still fought on even terms against a much better fighter than Judah in Pac. Arguably got the better of Pac, who has power and speed which could hurt JMM. But, we saw how that went and Judah isn't half the fighter of Pac.

He still beat Spink's. If Khan wins VS Pet I am sure you would mention both.

Yes Pac is better than Judah but they have different styles. Like Juan won most rounds until he got KO'd in the first, yet Pac seemingly did worse...

Or that kats dropped him yet Pac can't? Every fighter is different.

[Roman Moreno]

He still beat Spink's. If Khan wins VS Pet I am sure you would mention both.

Yes Pac is better than Judah but they have different styles. Like Juan won most rounds until he got KO'd in the first, yet Pac seemingly did worse...

Or that kats dropped him yet Pac can't? Every fighter is different.

Pac dropped him 4 times. Who said Pac can't? But, OK.

And, I maybe you should read the post to see the context of the Spinks loss was being used in.

[Uns]

He couldn't hurt Khan but it's going to be able to hurt JMM?

Anyways, he hurt Cotto, he hurt Floyd it seems. Didn't finish them.

Even if he hurts JMM are you insinuating that he will stop a fighter that hasn't been stopped before?

He isn't stopping JMM.

Cotto low balled him.
Mayweather didn't get hurt if you mean the KD.

He didn't hurt Khan because Khan used his size and speed to land and imposed that.

JMM is a counter puncher, not an in and out fighter. It plays more for Judah to face someone who waits.

It is true that JMM hasn't been stopped, but i have no doubt that Judah could if the opportunity arose.

I don't think you should use triangle theories they way you are doing it. You don't seem to understand they all are different.

[Steak]

But, Judah is much more mentally weak fighter than all those guys you named. For all his tools, he is too inconsistent. Every fighter you named are consistent even if they're a lesser fighter.

Inconsistent fighters won't beat JMM, and, if Judah is not having his way after 4 or 5 rounds he will fold and give up. He has no plan B, he is a ****** fighter. Plain ******, doesn't have the smarts to or consistency to be competitive with JMM.

And, yes JMM is getting old. But Judah is no spring chicken himself. He very past prime as well. Maybe if this was a prime Judah OK. But, it isn't.

I never said I was picking Judah.

But I dont think its absurd that Judah beats Marquez, either. Marquez does get hit pretty easily sometimes, and I can see that left uppercut dropping him.

If Judah can put him on the defensive, and then potshot by using his speed and, well, basically run away...I could see Marquez losing.

Not that I would pick Judah, for the reasons you stated above. But stranger things have happened in boxing, and I would consider Judah a live underdog, even though he is past prime.

[Uns]

Pac dropped him 4 times. Who said Pac can't? But, OK.

And, I maybe you should read the post to see the context of the Spinks loss was being used in.

I was referring to the recent Pac fight obviously. Pac couldn't drop JMM yet Kats did?

I am trying to say that you shouldn't base it on this guy did that blah blah. Pac is far better than Kats. That's why the triangle theory on Judah couldn't hurt Khan doesn't work for at least me.