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  • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
    Can you back this up?
    I'll do some digging when I'm home. Two fight deal with GBP, his first fight being a $1.25m guarantee versus Allan, plus a share of the PPV and the total fight revenue as an equity holder of the Company. Furthermore, the Calzaghe fight offered him his highest guarantee, not payday. He was guaranteed $2.75mil versus Trinidad and also earned a share of PPV.

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    • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
      I'll do some digging when I'm home. Two fight deal with GBP, his first fight being a $1.25m guarantee versus Allan, plus a share of the PPV and the total fight revenue as an equity holder of the Company. Furthermore, the Calzaghe fight offered him his highest guarantee, not payday. He was guaranteed $2.75mil versus Trinidad and also earned a share of PPV.
      He was guaranteed $3m for the Calzaghe fight plus 50% of the UK/European revenue.

      So in other words, no he did not make more fighting Allen or Joppy.

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      • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
        He was guaranteed $3m for the Calzaghe fight plus 50% of the UK/European revenue.

        So in other words, no he did not make more fighting Allen or Joppy.
        Hmm...this is what you asked:

        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
        He wasn't proven right. Did he make more than $3m for any single fight leading up to Oscar?
        Yes, he did. Furthermore, I don't know how much the UK/Euro revenue is. I assume the 50% wouldn't go straight in his pocket anyway.

        And finally, you keep pretending as if Hopkins ducked a fight with Calzaghe. No, he turned down a contract offer from the lesser paying Showtime. Unless you think he ducked a fight with Harry Simon too. Hopkins didn't like the numbers (he would have been fighting for peanuts in the two previous fights before Calzaghe) and instead, decided to sign a long-term deal with HBO. The same HBO that offered him a $3.5 million guarantee to fight Carl Daniels (imagine that?), of which he received $2.8 after King jerked him around. The same reason why he walked away from King and refused the Showtime deal/promotion extension.

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        • Glen Johnson for starters........

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          • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
            Hmm...this is what you asked:


            Yes, he did. Furthermore, I don't know how much the UK/Euro revenue is. I assume the 50% wouldn't go straight in his pocket anyway.
            I asked knowing the answer. I wanted to see what you'd come out with. He didn't make more fighting those guys and you know it.

            Regardless, fighting less challenging fights when more challenging ones are presented to you is still ducking. Sorry.

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            • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
              I asked knowing the answer. I wanted to see what you'd come out with. He didn't make more fighting those guys and you know it.

              Regardless, fighting less challenging fights when more challenging ones are presented to you is still ducking. Sorry.
              Or if either are hardly a challenge then it's negligible (ie. Simon, Hakkar, Joppy, etc.). Then again, he wasn't offered a fight. He was offered fights ie. a contract with a network which included an extension with his promoter.

              AGAIN: And finally, you keep pretending as if Hopkins ducked a fight with Calzaghe. No, he turned down a contract offer from the lesser paying Showtime. Unless you think he ducked a fight with Harry Simon too. Hopkins didn't like the numbers (he would have been fighting for peanuts in the two previous fights before Calzaghe) and instead, decided to sign a long-term deal with HBO. The same HBO that offered him a $3.5 million guarantee to fight Carl Daniels (imagine that?), of which he received $2.8 after King jerked him around. The same reason why he walked away from King and refused the Showtime deal/promotion extension.

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              • IMDAZED, why are you even bothering with this **** Digger? Calzaghe fans are cowards when it comes to boxing - don't you ever forget that.

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                • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                  What does this have to do with Hopkins rejecting a career high purse to fight Joe in 02?
                  There is no way that a wbo outfit with warren doing the negotiating was able to offer £3m. Its BS. It was a fake title at the time, for goodness sake. There are no £3m fights for the equivalent WBF/IBC titles EVEN today with nearly 20 years inflation on top.

                  Thats just what Wassen said, along with saying that "calzaghe was in training for lining up Echols/Pavlik/hopkins/johnson/Tate" when in reality he never was. He was just trying his best to lie to get his man a mention in the newspapers.


                  Joe fought all the bums and beat them all. plus three good wins too, give him credit for that.
                  Last edited by DreamFighter; 01-27-2019, 03:52 PM.

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                  • Joe fought them all and beat them all

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                    • Originally posted by Madison boxing View Post
                      Joe fought them all and beat them all
                      Literally the most overrated fighter to ever come out of here. Fought ****ing bums and retired.

                      He only fought 3 top 5 opponents in 46 fights. That's ****ing shocking.

                      I don't give a **** which snowflake gets triggered but I'm gonna call it as it is - Calzaghe only gets "rated" because he's British, white and undefeated.

                      Our media will suck off any old hype job. Shiiiiiit if an overrated fighter like Golovkin or Crawford were from here, they'd be considered greater than Calzaghe

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