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  • Welterweight

    After his fight with Gatti, Mayweather moved up to the welterweight division. On November 19, 2005, Mayweather fought a non-title bout at 147 lb (67 kg) against welterweight Sharmba Mitchell. In round 3, Mayweather knocked down Mitchell with a straight right hand to the head. In round 6, another straight right hand—this one to Mitchell's body—dropped Mitchell again and ended the fight.
    Mayweather vs. Judah
    Main article: Floyd Mayweather vs. Zab Judah

    On April 8, 2006, Mayweather defeated Zab Judah for the IBF Welterweight title by unanimous decision. Beforehand, the fight had been jeopardized after Judah lost the WBA, WBC and The Ring Welterweight titles to Carlos Manuel Baldomir on January 7, 2006, but Mayweather's and Judah's camps reworked the contract and decided that the fight would go on.[85] In the fight, Mayweather stayed calm during Judah's aggressive early rounds. Mayweather began to dominate Judah in round 5 and Judah eventually bled. Near the conclusion of the tenth round, Judah hit Mayweather with a left hand that was clearly below the belt and followed up with a right-handed rabbit punch. After referee Richard Steele called time with five seconds remaining in the round, Roger Mayweather entered the ring and approached Judah, but Steele restrained him. Judah's father and trainer, Yoel Judah, entered the ring as well. Floyd remained in the neutral corner while both Yoel and Zab scuffled with Roger (and others who had entered the ring) until police and security managed to restore order. Roger was thrown out, but the fight continued and went the scheduled 12 rounds. Mayweather won by the official scores of 116–112, 117–111 and 119–109. Compubox statistics showed Mayweather as landing 188 punches to 82 for Judah.[86]

    Five days after the fight, the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) decided not to overturn the result of the bout, but Roger Mayweather was fined US$200,000 and suspended for one year.[87] The suspension entailed that Roger could train Mayweather, Jr. in the gym but could not work the corner during fights.[88] On April 17, 2006, the IBF ordered a rematch between Mayweather and Judah, but the NSAC suspended Judah for one year on May 8, 2006.[89] Mayweather vacated the IBF title on June 20, 2006.

    After his fight against Judah, it was reported that Mayweather rejected an offer of US$8 million to fight Antonio Margarito, citing his split with promoter Bob Arum as the reason.[90] Oscar De la Hoya, however, postponed his decision until 2007, leaving Mayweather to choose his next opponent.[91] Mayweather considered moving up in weight again to fight Light Middleweight Champion Cory Spinks, but because of negative publicity and Spinks' impending mandatory defense of his title, he finally decided to face WBC and The Ring Welterweight Champion Carlos Baldomir on November 4, 2006 in Las Vegas.[92]

    The bout took place on November 4, 2006. Despite having not lost in over 8 years, Baldomir was seen as a heavy underdog in the fight. Mayweather would ultimately defeat Baldomir by unanimous decision for both titles. Ringside punch statistics showed Mayweather landing 199 of 458 punches, while Baldomir landed just 79 of 670. Mayweather earned $8 million for the fight, while Baldomir was paid $1.6 million. Both were career highs in earnings for each fighter at the time.

    During the fight, Baldomir chased Mayweather, unable to land any meaningful shots but tried to remain the busier fighter, while Mayweather picked away with sharp jabs and hooks and cut Baldomir over his left eye in the first round. This pattern continued throughout the fight. The defensive-minded Mayweather put on what many witnesses and Mayweather himself called a "boxing clinic" to take Baldomir's WBC and The Ring Welterweight titles in a lopsided 12 round decision. Two judges had Mayweather winning all 12 rounds, with the other giving all but two rounds to Mayweather. After the fight, Mayweather called out for a fight with Oscar De La Hoya.

    With Mayweather's win, he became the first fighter since Roberto Durán to have captured The Ring title in both the lightweight and welterweight divisions.[93] Mayweather also captured his third Lineal Championship in as many weight-classes (Super featherweight, Lightweight and Welterweight), following in the footsteps of such fighters as Henry Armstrong and Sugar Ray Leonard.
    Light Middleweight
    Mayweather vs. De La Hoya

    The World Awaits

    Mayweather's next match was the long-anticipated superfight against six-division champion and current WBC Light Middleweight titleholder Oscar De La Hoya on May 5, 2007. De La Hoya's belt was on the line, which required Mayweather to move up in weight from 147 pounds to 154. However, Mayweather was outweighed by more than 10 pounds on the night of the fight, coming in at only 150 pounds. Despite De La Hoya's insistence that money was not a factor, the Mayweather-De La Hoya bout set the record for most PPV buys for a boxing match with 2.7 million households, shattering the record of 1.95 million for Evander Holyfield-Mike Tyson II. Around $120 million in revenue was generated by the PPV, which set another record. With the percentages factored in, Oscar De La Hoya earned $58 million for the bout, the highest purse ever for a fighter. The previous record was $35 million, held by Tyson and Holyfield. Floyd Mayweather earned about $25 million for the fight.[94]

    At one time, Floyd Mayweather, Sr., Mayweather, Jr.'s father, was in talks to train Oscar De La Hoya and be in his corner during the fight but he decided to train with Freddie Roach. Mayweather won the fight by split decision in 12 rounds, capturing the WBC title. However, many analysts and ringside observers felt Mayweather should have won the clear unanimous decision. In the early rounds, De La Hoya had some success cutting off the ring, attempting to pound Mayweather on the inside. Despite being very active on the inside, many of De La Hoya's punches were ineffective and landed on Mayweathers arms or shoulders. By the middle of the fight, it was seen as an even bout by the announcers. However, Mayweather turned the tide in the middle and late rounds, often hitting De La Hoya at will. Official scorecards read 116–112 (Mayweather), 115–113 (Mayweather) and 115–113 (De La Hoya). Compubox had Mayweather out landing De La Hoya 207 to 122 in total punches and 134 to 82 in power punches, as well as having better accuracy in the entire fight. After the bout, Mayweather contemplated retirement, saying he had nothing left to prove in the boxing world.
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    Mayweather vs. Hatton

    Undefeated
    Press Conference in Manchester, 2007

    After his fight with De La Hoya, Mayweather decided to relinquish his WBC Light Middleweight Championship[95] and kept his WBC Welterweight Championship. On July 28, 2007, it was announced that Mayweather would come out of his short retirement to fight The Ring Light Welterweight Champion Ricky Hatton, which was promoted by Oscar De La Hoya's promotion company Golden Boy Promotions and Floyd Mayweather's "Mayweather Promotions." The bout was labelled "Undefeated" and took place on December 8, 2007, at the MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada, in a fight which was the biggest welterweight showdown of two undefeated fighters since Oscar De La Hoya and Félix Trinidad met in their 1999 superfight. In the build up to their fight, Mayweather claimed that he was the greatest boxer ever, saying: "I respect what Robinson and Ali did for the sport. But I am the greatest and this is my time."

    Mayweather controlled the fight from the start and knocked Hatton out in the 10th round to retain the Welterweight Championship.[96] Hatton suffered a cut over his right eye in round three from the punches of Mayweather and it seemed that it was at this point that his pace and movement began to slow. In round six Hatton lost a point for punching the back of Floyd's head as he was caught d****d on the ropes. In the tenth round, Hatton was caught with a check left hook thrown from Mayweather's hip and, as a result, he fell forward head first into the turnbuckle and hit the deck. Hatton managed to make it to his feet, but was clearly dazed. Two more big lefts in a flurry put Ricky down again and Cortez stopped it at 1:35 of round ten.[97] Official scorecards read 88–82, 89–81 and 89–81, at the time of stoppage, all in favor of Mayweather.

    After the fight, Mayweather said that Hatton was one of the toughest fighters he had ever fought, that he just kept coming and coming and that he wants to promote fights, with Hatton being his first client. Mayweather announced his retirement from boxing to concentrate on his promotional company.[98]

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    • Comeback
      Mayweather vs. Marquez

      Number One/Numero Uno

      On May 2, 2009, it was confirmed that Mayweather was coming out of a 21-month retirement to fight The Ring Lightweight Champion and The Ring No. 2 pound-for-pound, Juan Manuel Márquez, at a catchweight of 144 lb on July 18 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on HBO PPV.[99] The fight was postponed due to a rib injury Mayweather received during training. HBO's reality series 24/7 was also postponed to start on August 29. The fight took place on September 19, 2009 in conjunction with Mexican Independence Day, traditionally a big boxing weekend. During the official weigh in for their 144 lb bout, Mayweather failed to meet the required limit by weighing in at 146 lb, two pounds heavier than Marquez. He was subsequently fined as a result.[100] However, it was later revealed that the contract was changed so that Mayweather could make weight within the welterweight limit of 140–147 lb as long as Marquez received a large guaranteed sum of money.[101] Mayweather won a unanimous decision after 12 rounds in one of the most statistically lop sided fights between two world class opponents. Scorecards read 120–107, 119–108 and 118–109, all in favor of Mayweather. Marquez only managed to land 12% of his total 583 punches while Mayweather landed 59% of 490 total punches.[102] This fight marks only the fifth time in boxing history that a non-heavyweight fight sold more than 1 million pay-per-views, with the official HBO numbers coming in at over 1 million buys equalling a total of approximately $52 million. Four of those fights all featured Oscar De La Hoya as the main event, making this fight the one of two events where a non-heavyweight fight sold over 1 million PPVs without Oscar De La Hoya. The other fight was Manny Pacquiao versus Miguel Cotto, which sold 1.25 million PPVs.[103]
      Mayweather vs. Mosley

      Who R U Picking?

      Negotiations for a proposed matchup between Mayweather and The Ring No. 3 pound-for-pound, Shane Mosley immediately began after Andre Berto pulled out of his scheduled January 30 unification bout with the latter, due to the 2010 Haiti earthquake.[104] Both sides eventually agreed to fight on May 1, 2010 for Mosley's WBA (Super) Welterweight title. It was later revealed that Floyd Mayweather refused to pay sanctioning fees required by WBA. Mayweather said "all belts do is collect dust." However, the belt was only on the line for Mosley to defend against Mayweather.[105] Both Mayweather and Mosley agreed to Olympic-style testing for this bout.[106][107] Mosley started the fight well, landing two solid right hands in Round 2 which caused Mayweather's knees to buckle. Mayweather recovered well and went on to dominate the remainder of the fight, soundly outboxing Mosley and showing more aggression than in his recent fights. Mayweather eventually won a unanimous decision, with the judges scoring the fight 119–109, 119–109 and 118–110. In round 4, Compubox picked up Mosley throwing seven power punches without landing any, making Mayweather the second boxer after Roy Jones, Jr. to go an entire round without being hit by a power punch. After the fight, the president of Golden Boy Promotions, Oscar De La Hoya, stated that he believes Mayweather is the best in the game right now.[108]

      The fight was the second highest selling non heavyweight pay-per-view bout in the history of boxing, with 1.4 million buys. HBO officially released that the fight generated $78.3 million in revenue. After the fight Mayweather expressed interest in moving up in weight to capture a world title in six different weight classes and to challenge newly crowned Middleweight Champion Sergio Martinez.[109]
      Negotiations with Manny Pacquiao

      Seven-division world champion Manny Pacquiao had reportedly agreed to fight Mayweather on March 13, 2010 for a split of $50 million which the promoters of both camp already agreed.[110] However, the fight was called off due to disagreements about Olympic style drug tests. Floyd Mayweather's camp wanted blood tests by the United States Anti-Doping Agency, which will conduct the tests anytime from training up to the fight date.[111] However the Pacquiao camp refused to provide these samples, only willing to allow blood to be taken from Pacquiao if the test were scheduled. On the other hand, Pacquiao's coach, Freddie Roach, has commented that he would allow a blood sample to be taken from Pacquiao if there was a cut-off date for the blood testing or at least one week before the fight. In an attempt to resolve their differences, the two camps went through a process of mediation before a retired judge. After the mediation process Mayweather agreed to a 14-day no blood testing window. However, Pacquiao refused and instead only agreed to a 24-day no blood testing window.[112] Consequently, on January 7, 2010, Pacquiao's promoter Bob Arum declared that the fight was officially off and that he has offered the chance to fight Pacquiao instead to Joshua Clottey, while Mayweather accepted the offer to fight Shane Mosley.[113]

      It was also reported that Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer and Top Rank Chief Bob Arum were trying to work out the failed negotiation for a fight between Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao. Mayweather has asked Pacquiao to undergo random blood and urine testing up until the fight day. Pacquiao finally then agreed to give blood up until 14 days before the fight, which is closer to the fight day than the 18-day cut-off in Mayweather's previous bout against Mosley. Pacquiao said that giving blood too close to the fight day will weaken him, and also stating that he has a fear of needles, despite having tattoo's on his body. On June 12, 2010, the President of Golden Boy Promotions, Oscar De La Hoya, stated during an interview with a Spanish network that the deal for the fight was very close and the negotiation process has been very difficult.[114] On June 30, 2010, Arum announced that the management of both sides had agreed to terms, that all points had been settled (including Pacquiao agreeing to submit to both blood and urine testing) and only the signature of Floyd Mayweather, Jr. was needed to seal the deal that could have earned both fighters at least $40 million each. Arum also announced that Pacquiao accepted the terms of the random drug testing, blood and urine, leading up to the fight.[115] Mayweather was then given a two-week deadline for the fight contract to be signed.[116]

      On July 15, 2010, Mayweather was given until Friday midnight to sign the fight. The next day the Top Rank website embedded a countdown clock on their website with the heading "Money" Time: Mayweather's Decision.[117] On July 17, 2010, Arum announced that there was no word from Mayweather's camp and the deal for a November 13, 2010 fight with Mayweather was not reached.

      On July 19, 2010, after waiting for Mayweather's response, Leonard Ellerbe, one of Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s closest advisers, denied that negotiations for a super fight between Mayweather and Pacquiao had ever taken place. Ellerbe stated that Bob Arum was not telling the truth and that Pacquiao never once agreed to testing up until the fight.[118] Bob Arum later criticized Oscar De La Hoya and his Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer for denying that negotiations took place, when De La Hoya himself had previously stated that they were "very, very close in finalizing the contracts."[119] Arum revealed that HBO Sports President Ross Greenburg acted as the mediator between Mayweather’s handlers and those of Pacquiao’s from Top Rank Promotions.[120] On July 26, 2010, Ross Greenburg said in a statement that he has been negotiating with a representative from each side since May 2, 2010, carefully trying to put the fight together and he did in fact act as a go-between in negotiations with the two sides, but they were unable to come to an agreement at all, contradicting what Arum and Top Rank had previously said.[121][122] Floyd Mayweather Jr., after the second negotiation had been officially declared off, told the Associated Press that he had fought sixty days ago and that he was in no rush to fight Pacquiao and was not really thinking about boxing at the moment.[123] Almost a year later, on July 8, 2011, Manny Pacquiao's top adviser Michael Koncz confirmed that Pacquiao had in fact never agreed to testing up until fight day, which contradicted what Bob Arum and the Pacquiao camp had been saying for well over a year.[124]
      Return to the Ring
      Mayweather vs. Ortiz

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      • On June 7, 2011, Mayweather announced via Twitter that he was set to fight WBC Welterweight Champion & The Ring No. 2 ranked Welterweight, Victor Ortiz, on September 17, 2011. Ortiz was Mayweather's first challenger in 16 months.[125]

        The fight took place at MGM Grand Garden Arena. From round one, Mayweather used his speed, skills and accurate right hand to tag Ortiz repeatedly. Mayweather seemed in control through the first three rounds (judges scores: 30–27, 30–27, 29–28 for Mayweather), but in the fourth round, Ortiz found some success, landing a few shots and stinging Mayweather before bulling him into the corner. Then Ortiz rammed Mayweather in the face with an intentional headbutt, opening a cut on the inside and outside of Mayweather's mouth. Referee, Joe Cortez, immediately called timeout and docked Ortiz a point for the blatant foul. Ortiz, seemingly acknowledging his wrongdoing, hugged Mayweather in the corner and even appeared to kiss him.

        Cortez motioned the fighters back together to resume the fight, albeit unauthoritatively and without putting them in a neutral corner. Both fighters touched gloves and Ortiz gave Mayweather another hug. At this point, it was noted that Cortez was not looking at the fighters. As Ortiz let go, Mayweather took advantage of Ortiz not having his hands up and unloaded a left hook that wobbled Ortiz. Ortiz then looked at the referee and Mayweather connected with a flush right hand to Ortiz's face. Ortiz dropped and was unable to beat Cortez's count as the crowd of 14,687 jeered Mayweather. Although Mayweather's controversial victory was generally accepted as legal, it was also labelled as a sucker punch and unsportsmanlike.[126][127][128]

        After the fight, Ortiz claimed that he was merely obeying the referee's instructions when he was 'blindsided' by Mayweather, while Mayweather defended his actions by saying that "in the ring, you have to protect yourself at all times."[129]

        Mayweather vs. Ortiz generated buys from 1.25 million homes with a value of $78,440,000 in pay-per-view revenue. These numbers make the event the second highest grossing non-heavyweight pay-per-view event of all time. Mayweather has appeared in the three biggest non-heavyweight pay-per-view events in the sport’s history, including Mayweather vs. Oscar De La Hoya ($136,853,700), Mayweather vs. Ortiz ($78,440,000 million) and Mayweather vs. Shane Mosley ($78,330,000 million).[130]

        Mayweather also became the first man to fight three consecutive times on pay-per-view and break 1 million domestic buys each time.[131]
        Return to Light Middleweight
        Mayweather vs. Cotto

        Ring Kings

        Floyd Mayweather's adviser, Leonard Ellerbe, announced on November 2, 2011, that Mayweather will return to the ring on May 5, 2012, at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada.

        After negotiations with Manny Pacquiao failed again, on February 1, 2012, it was confirmed that Mayweather would be moving up in weight to fight WBA (Super) Light Middleweight Champion & The Ring No. 1 ranked light middleweight, Miguel Cotto.:waving:

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        • Originally posted by tredh View Post
          So Hatton says he is not ready for PBF when they are both at 140. PBF moves to 147 and after a few fights Hatton is ready for PBF. So some folks are of the opinion that PBF should have moved back down to 140 for the Hatton fight cause Hatton is now ready for that fight. How does that even make sense?
          FYI, what I said is that a floyd win over Hatton at 140 instead of 147 would have enhanced his resume more and you have people talling me that I said floyd avoided him at 140. It's funny how touchy people get about their hero.

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          • leaving work now, versy' has successfully trolled this thread.

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            • Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
              versy, are you really putting their wiki pages in here?
              Breaking tension. Hahaha. Well...trying.

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              • Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
                and I answered around 50!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
                Which was before my post.






                Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
                I ate my crow on that pick and I will continue to do so, I never dissed that win for floyd in this thread, or ever, I just said a win in 2006 over shane would have been better, comparing it to a win over pac in '09 vs a pac win in '13.
                You did diss the win.

                Using terms such as 38 year old and 16 month lay off to suggest he was old and overtrained.



                Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
                again, quote please?
                So what was the point of that part of your post?

                What did you mean by it?

                Are you just saying it, it say it.

                Everyone knows Mayweather couldn't get Shane in 06 and Shane didn't want it.



                Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
                yea, because I've changed up my stances without explanation so many times.
                I know.

                You do that often.



                Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
                you didn't debun shi t, I had that conve 20 times before with people. I knew they were on different networks and the timing wasn't right. but floyd was not after a zoo fight, he was after gatti then on to 147
                You were claiming he ducked him and it was quickly de-bunked.

                You admitted to me that you know that fight couldn't have happened.

                Mayweather would have happily fought Tszyu.



                Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
                in actuality he didn't fight them until he had an advantage, if at all, but other people did. make up whatever excuses you want.




                Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
                where did I say he did this Dan.

                I haven't seen you one time back your words up yet.
                It's what you were implying.

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                • Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
                  he didn't though, per my last post.

                  There's A LOT of posters, floyd fans even (including Dazed in this thread) that think hatton's strengths didnt translate at 147. oh, yea, also the actual in ring results show that they didn't translate either.
                  Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
                  I think Collazo put it on both their a$$'s. It's a shame he got shafted cause I would have loved to see him & Floyd tangle. Collazo had skill!!
                  I had Berto winning by a point as Collazo threw too many arm punches for my liking. Just saying it's ****** to think Hatton didn't belong at 147 because he was unable to bully Collazo, something Berto (A WW) was also unable to do. In fact it's boxing, one will always come across a stronger guy. It also happened with Cotto-Margarito the first time, Cotto was unable to bully Margarito. Or should they should take their asses to 140?
                  Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 05-03-2012, 02:45 PM.

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                  • Cotto fans are the GOAT thats why

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                    • Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
                      FYI, what I said is that a floyd win over Hatton at 140 instead of 147 would have enhanced his resume more and you have people talling me that I said floyd avoided him at 140. It's funny how touchy people get about their hero.
                      OK. I understand what you are saying and I respectfully disagree.

                      If Floyd had ALWAYS been the bigger guy, it would have diminished the accomplishment
                      .
                      But Floyd had , like, 30 fights at 130/135. Hatton started his career at 140.

                      It is not unreasonable AT ALL that 9 years into Hatton's career to face a former SFW at 147.

                      Will it diminish Pac's accomplishment if he KO's Tim Bradley at 147 next month?

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