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  • -PBP-
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    #41
    Originally posted by gapo
    So why did they fight pacquiao then? did anybody forced them to sign the contract?? they can say no to it, and its so easy. Mayweather has been doing it for years now.

    Money. And dont forget weight was the reason why cotto pac 2 wasn't made for June. Cotto refused to fight below 150.

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #42
      Originally posted by gapo
      So why did they fight pacquiao then? did anybody forced them to sign the contract?? they can say no to it, and its so easy. Mayweather has been doing it for years now.
      I don't think it hindered Cotto's performance at all, having an inexperienced trainer might have done that already. Santiago was trash. So again I don't think 145 effected him all that much, not enough to have made much of a difference. Just that it's disrespectful not to allow the champ to fight at his divisions' limit, 147.

      Don't get the bold.

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      • gapo
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        #43
        Originally posted by PBP
        Money. And dont forget weight was the reason why cotto pac 2 wasn't made for June. Cotto refused to fight below 150.
        Money is not enough reason. There must be something else. Maybe they believe themselves they can do it. Pacquiao said NO to mayweathers offer of 40 million dollars. Same token when mayweather says no testing no fight. Anyways, 150 would have been another catchweight against cotto would have been terrible. So i'm glad that fight did not happen at all.

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        • gapo
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          #44
          Originally posted by Dominicano Soy
          I don't think it hindered Cotto's performance at all, having an inexperienced trainer might have done that already. Santiago was trash. So again I don't think 145 effected him all that much, not enough to have made much of a difference. Just that it's disrespectful not to allow the champ to fight at his divisions' limit, 147.

          Don't get the bold.

          The bold is about mayweather not agreeing to pacquiao's demands on the negotiations. hence the fight not happening.

          I agree with you about cotto's corner at that time. I remember his team asking cotto "one more round"?

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            #45
            Originally posted by commodus
            and the catchweight fight with JMM he had......but he contradicts himself all the time so.....
            lol at this even being brought up when it was to help marquez...

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            • 4Corners
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              #46
              If it was at 154, that's not a CW, that's a weight class. And if it was at a CW anywhere from 155-159, I wouldn't see the problem. The only oroblem with CW's is when you ask for a CW the other guy kills himself to make, Oscar at 145 for example.

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                #47
                Originally posted by 4Corners
                If it was at 154, that's not a CW, that's a weight class. And if it was at a CW anywhere from 155-159, I wouldn't see the problem. The only oroblem with CW's is when you ask for a CW the other guy kills himself to make, Oscar at 145 for example.
                But that is making sergio fight out of his natural weightclass. PAcquiao made his opponents come down in weight. Sergio fights at 160. If he fights mayweather at 154. That's 6 pounds lower. A whole weightclass in today's standard.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by gapo
                  But that is making sergio fight out of his natural weightclass. PAcquiao made his opponents come down in weight. Sergio fights at 160. If he fights mayweather at 154. That's 6 pounds lower. A whole weightclass in today's standard.
                  I never b*tched Pac's CW's, with the exception of the Oscar one, because Oscar hadn't fought that low in 8-9 years. That was a worthless fight, can't knock Pac for doing it though because it made him a mega-star.

                  Sergio has beein fighting at 157-158. If he were to go down to 154, which he and everyone says is his natural weight class, that's not bad. If Floyd were to make him go down any lower than 154, than the fight loses it's luster for sure by a big margin. I doubt Floyd, if they fight, would do that. If it was anywhere from 154-160, it's gotta be a huge fight.

                  But if what you're saying is your stance, than you can't say Floyd is ducking Sergio, because it seems like you wouldn't give him credit for fighting him at 154 anyway. So how can he be ducking him like everyone else claims??? There's no point for him to fight him at 154 if you guys are just going to use that as an excuse to why he won or something.

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                    #49
                    Pac can beat Martinez at 154, 155, 156......Floyds just waiting for Martinez to slow down. The big guys Martinez has fought, Floyd would never fight them. Even if "you" say they suck, floyd wouldn't put himself in that danger against the last 2 determined fighters Martinez fought.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by bose
                      Pac can beat Martinez at 154, 155, 156......Floyds just waiting for Martinez to slow down. The big guys Martinez has fought, Floyd would never fight them. Even if "you" say they suck, floyd wouldn't put himself in that danger against the last 2 determined fighters Martinez fought.

                      So now Floyd's being criticized for not jumping 2 weight classes to 160 to fight Matthew Macklin and Darren Barker?

                      Lol..just when you think you've heard it all

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