Interesting to See Mayweather Diss Catchweights, Yet...

[Zano-24]

It's still a catchweight though if Martinez isn't allowed make the Middleweight limit.

Again, I'm not one of these guys who disses Floyd all day, I just find it very contradictory to diss a guy who took catchweight fights, and now he himself mentions it as a possibility.

Well that would be the case if Floyd was the challenger. If I recall Marquez challenged Floyd and the same goes with Martinez. But if he turns around and says "Hey I want to fight you but the only catch is that the match has to be at a CW". One thing I really hate is people fighting for belts at CW. That doesn't make any sense at all to do that. I don't know why they even allow it in the first place.

[MrRolltide91]

@ 53 sec

i didn't hear anything

[Doctor_Tenma]

It's still a catchweight though if Martinez isn't allowed make the Middleweight limit.

Again, I'm not one of these guys who disses Floyd all day, I just find it very contradictory to diss a guy who took catchweight fights, and now he himself mentions it as a possibility.

Difference is, as some stated, Pacquiao goes through with them. Margarito at 150 and Cotto at 145. Not to mention they wanted Mosley at 143 and Miguel again at another catch weight.

Another thing, Martinez wouldn't be weak from making 154,55,56 and so on.

[gapo]

Believe it or not and I will try and find the video. Arum said that Manny vs Martinez wouldn't make sense because Martinez doesn't sell enough tickets and nobody knows him. Which is funny as hell because Martinez is the P4P#3 in the world. That was Arums response to Sergio's suggestion at a CW of 150. Its pretty similar to what Arum was saying about Sergio when Sergio wanted to fight Chavez.Jr.

So the negotiations to make the fight never happened then.

Also about not having enough fanbase, mayweather had used that excuse for not fighting the top echelons in his weightclass four maybe five years ago. Don't get me wrong, i hate arum. I think he is the reason pacquiao/mayweather fight will never happen unless pacquiao decides to promote his own self. I can't see mayweather having anything or wanting to do with arum.

[RL_GMA]

Yep. But sergio fights a class higher than that. If he has to go down to 154, would that be considered a catchweight where floyd fights in?

I look at it in the same aspect as Pac asking Cotto to come to 147 for a rematch. I didn't agree with it on the side of Pacquiao.

We also have to remember the position Martinez is in. He wants a huge payday and he's been trying to get his name in the mix between Mayweather and Pacquiao, even making 150lbs. Yet in an interview about facing Cotto who had I believ his 2nd fight at 154, he states he would want Cotto to come in at maybe 157-158 because he wasn't sure he could make 154 healthy anymore. He's said a lot of different things about his weight, so are we to believe he can make 150lbs or is he a guy desperate for a big payday and will say anything to get negotiations going? Seems like that's the most reasonable situation.

[Doctor_Tenma]

I think the stakes are an issue too. Manny won a welterweight title at a 145 catchweight and a super welterweight title. at a 150 pound catchweight. He could put his 154 title on the line at a catchweight of 156-158 to make sure Sergio is at a weight he can perform at. That's a catchweight that favors Martinez. Its just not enough in the interview to attack him just yet.

I knock him simply for that, but no need for that as even his fans know that was a joke.

[RL_GMA]

Difference is, as some stated, Pacquiao goes through with them. Margarito at 150 and Cotto at 145. Not to mention they wanted Mosley at 143 and Miguel again at another catch weight.

Another thing, Martinez wouldn't be weak from making 154,55,56 and so on.

I'm not denying Pacquiao's catchweight fights, my thing is if you're even mentioning it in the case of fighting Martinez, it's still a contradiction. We also just can't assume Martinez makes 154 healthy either being he hasn't fought there in years now. He's made different statements about his weight from being able to make 150, saying 154 would be better, then telling ESPN deportes he could fight Cotto at 157-158, so what are we really to believe?

Floyd asking Martinez to fight at 154 is asking Martinez to come down to an official weight class, just as it is Pacquiao asking Cotto to down 147 (which I don't agree with either)

[gapo]

I knock him simply for that, but no need for that as even his fans know that was a joke.

So why did they fight pacquiao then? did anybody forced them to sign the contract?? they can say no to it, and its so easy. Mayweather has been doing it for years now.

[Doctor_Tenma]

I'm not denying Pacquiao's catchweight fights, my thing is if you're even mentioning it in the case of fighting Martinez, it's still a contradiction. We also just can't assume Martinez makes 154 healthy either being he hasn't fought there in years now. He's made different statements about his weight from being able to make 150, saying 154 would be better, then telling ESPN deportes he could fight Cotto at 157-158, so what are we really to believe?

Floyd asking Martinez to fight at 154 is asking Martinez to come down to an official weight class, just as it is Pacquiao asking Cotto to down 147 (which I don't agree with either)

No proof, but going by looks, looking at Martinez weigh in against Macklin, the man looks like he can easily make 54 and be healthy. I don't get that sense from looking at Miguel, he's filled in a lot since moving up.

[Hougigo]

He already fought at a catchweight... so his argument is invalid