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  • Oh you out son
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    #21
    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
    It is not what Pacquiao is doing in camp, it what he does out of camp.

    Pacquiao needs to rest properly.

    Pacquiao has been burning the candle at both ends, training, singing, endorsements, talk shows, congress duties, spending time with the family, the school run.

    It doesn't matter too much how Pacquiao is doing now it matters how he will be doing come fight night.

    A good performance against Bradley will cement Pacquiao as an ATG top 15 and the greatest fighter of his generation.
    No it won't, you could make argument for to 15 ATG but unless he beats mayweather by end of 2013 mayweather is the best fighter of this generation (he hasn't lost, unlike Pacquiao who has lost to Morales and Marquez)

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    • D4thincarnation
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      #22
      Originally posted by Big Dunn
      Right man. Manny beats another 7-1 underdog its not really that big a deal. This is manny fighting a guy coming up from 140. No more no less. Hold it in the same light you held floyd/hatton. Hatton was at least consensus top 5 p4p when they fought. Bradley is about consensus #8. Manny should win easily.
      I see you rate Pacquiao very highly.

      Well done!

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      • lopez36
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        #23
        so he is training hard,wow big deal,he also trained hard in the marquez fight and still looked silly in there,,,good luck to bradley because he's up against the judges and arum on june 9th

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          #24
          Originally posted by Oh you out son
          No it won't, you could make argument for to 15 ATG but unless he beats mayweather by end of 2013 mayweather is the best fighter of this generation (he hasn't lost, unlike Pacquiao who has lost to Morales and Marquez)
          Neither has Joe Calzaghe or even Ottke guess they are the best of their generation.

          Ray Robinson must have been pretty poor according to you as well.

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            #25
            I have always respected him. Good fight but Bradley at 147 shouldn't pose a problem. This is a much better fight IMO at 140.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Big Dunn
              I have always respected him. Good fight but Bradley at 147 shouldn't pose a problem. This is a much better fight IMO at 140.
              140 or 147lbs Pacquiao will be exactly the same, he will just miss breakfast and fluids before the weigh in.

              So Bradley just has to come in like he would do for 140lbs, and doesn't even have to cut as much so he should be even be stronger and better.

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              • Oh you out son
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                #27
                Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                Neither has Joe Calzaghe or even Ottke guess they are the best of their generation.

                Ray Robinson must have been pretty poor according to you as well.
                There was honestly nobody else for Mayweather to fight that he didn't already. He fought and beat the best lightweight at the time in Jose Luis Castillo, He beat De La Hoya (without weight draining him like pac did after he was already even older), he just beat Ortiz who is I would say the most dangerous fighter around 140-147 (cheap shot or not, he was controlling the fight clearly).

                Now, you will make the argument that he avoided cotto and margarito in their prime. Cotto has stated that he never called for this fight and it was never on the table. Cotto has a better chance of beating Floyd now because he is more seasoned and disciplined. And cheato - Floyd would have swept floor with him every round even if cheato had bricks of steel in gloves he wouldn't have hit Floyd.

                I think Pacquiao is a great fighter. I'm not ready to say who is the better fighter between him and Mayweather until they fight. But if they do not fight, Mayweather's resume and his undefeated record keep him as no 1 for now.

                Get owned buddy haha
                Last edited by Oh you out son; 04-19-2012, 02:25 PM. Reason: spelling mistake

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                  140 or 147lbs Pacquiao will be exactly the same, he will just miss breakfast and fluids before the weigh in.

                  So Bradley just has to come in like he would do for 140lbs, and doesn't even have to cut as much so he should be even be stronger and better.
                  Both at 140 and this fight is much better in many people's minds.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Oh you out son
                    There was honestly nobody else for Mayweather to fight that he didn't already. He fought and beat the best lightweight at the time in Jose Luis Castillo, He beat De La Hoya (without weight draining him like pac did after he was already even older), he just beat Ortiz who is I would say the most dangerous fighter around 140-147 (cheap shot or not, he was controlling the fight clearly).

                    Now, you will make the argument that he avoided cotto and margarito in their prime. Cotto has stated that he never called for this fight and it was never on the table. Cotto has a better chance of beating Floyd now because he is more seasoned and disciplined. And cheato - Floyd would have swept floor with him every round even if cheato had bricks of steel in gloves he wouldn't have hit Floyd.

                    I think Pacquiao is a great fighter. I'm not ready to say who is the better fighter between him and Mayweather until they fight. But if they do not fight, Mayweather's resume and his undefeated record keep him as no 1 for now.

                    Get owned buddy haha
                    Who did Joe miss out?

                    Calzaghe beat Roy Jones

                    Mayweather beat Oscar and Mosley.

                    Same thing.


                    Mayweather missed fights with Williams and Marg, should have fought Cotto earlier.

                    Talked up fights with Winky, never materialised. Has not taking the Pacquiao fight, or Martinez.

                    Has had good wins, but lacks career defining fights, and not because they were none about for him to have.

                    Pacquiao got his fights with the Mexican trio and Cotto.

                    Floyd has to fall back to his fights with Castillo and Corrales and if he beats Cotto you can add that to the list.

                    But it does not compare to Pacquiao's best wins.

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                    • D4thincarnation
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Big Dunn
                      Both at 140 and this fight is much better in many people's minds.
                      Maybe in peoples minds, but in reality it is a tougher fight for Pacquiao at 147lbs than at 140lbs.

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