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    #61
    We know Floyd is the best, really. When he knocks out Zab, people are going to say he's ducking Margarito and Zab is no good. The dude can't win.
    Originally posted by TuPrincipe
    Deal. I'm not sure about how to make this official but put this stuff in your signature.

    I think this is just talk. No way does Mayweather fight Judah especially with that inflated ego. If this statement end up making me look like an ass so be it. I just don't think it's going to happen, especially with Floyd's.

    Floyd took his time, and targetted the weakest 140 titleists and is not going to even target the rest of them as He is most likely moving up to welterweight.

    I must admit, I am speculating over here a LITLE bit but I want to see Floyd fight someone with substance, rather then Mitchell, Gatti etc.

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    • Bozo_no no
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      #62
      Originally posted by TuPrincipe
      You're doing nothing but speculating on my hate for Floyd.

      Floyd is convinced of his own superiority against other fighters, and this is the only reason why some fights aren't happening.

      Can you please debate with me without using personal digs and insults. This is a boxing forum, leave everything else out of it.

      Come on man, who do you think you're fooling?

      You have an obvious dislike for Mayweather.

      It's allowed, and it's not an insult.

      Just man up and admit it.

      Floyd has fought Bruseles, Corley, and Gatti at 140. As far as I'm concerned, Hatton's competition is just as good if not better.

      At 140. You're forgetting the majority of Floyd's career is below 140, where he won many titles and beat several world class and pound for pound fighters.

      His career and resume as a whole trump Hatton's. Period.

      As for this point forward, I see Floyd in a super fight before I do Hatton.

      Hatton all but said he's targeting Gatti in the post Maussa fight interview, and also mentioned he has mandatories to take care of. Earlier this year, he said he's 'not ready' to fight Floyd until 2006.

      Your whole beef hinges on Floyd not being involved in any Marquee fights anytime soon.

      You will soon be eating humble pie.

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      • scap
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        #63
        Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
        Come on man, who do you think you're fooling?

        You have an obvious dislike for Mayweather.

        It's allowed, and it's not an insult.

        Just man up and admit it.




        At 140. You're forgetting the majority of Floyd's career is below 140, where he won many titles and beat several world class and pound for pound fighters.

        His career and resume as a whole trump Hatton's. Period.

        As for this point forward, I see Floyd in a super fight before I do Hatton.

        Hatton all but said he's targeting Gatti in the post Maussa fight interview, and also mentioned he has mandatories to take care of. Earlier this year, he said he's 'not ready' to fight Floyd until 2006.

        Your whole beef hinges on Floyd not being involved in any Marquee fights anytime soon.

        You will soon be eating humble pie.

        Floyd better be in a super fight before Ricky Hatton, Hatton just got done fighting Zoo.

        Floyd has had a good long rest with B level guys it is his turn to step it up. If the Judah fight falls thru then what Superfight are we gonna see Floyd in before Hatton?

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        • Bozo_no no
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          #64
          Originally posted by scap
          Floyd better be in a super fight before Ricky Hatton, Hatton just got done fighting Zoo.

          Floyd has had a good long rest with B level guys it is his turn to step it up. If the Judah fight falls thru then what Superfight are we gonna see Floyd in before Hatton?

          I think it gets signed.

          If it doesn't, there's the chance of the Mayorga / Delahoya winner, the Vargas Mosley winner, Margarito, or a rematch with the Castillo / Corrales winner.

          There are a lot of options.

          If he doesn't fight Judah, I really hope the Hatton fight comes through, but with Hatton not being able to fight for 6 months and his intention to take on Gatti or a tune up in the US, he's not really available until later in 2006.

          Regardless, the point Tu's always droning on about is how he thinks Mayweather is going to go on taking soft fights forever.

          No way.

          Floyd's in with a big name in 2006 without a doubt, possibly two.

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          • TuPrincipe
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            #65
            Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
            Come on man, who do you think you're fooling?

            You have an obvious dislike for Mayweather.

            It's allowed, and it's not an insult.

            Just man up and admit it.




            At 140. You're forgetting the majority of Floyd's career is below 140, where he won many titles and beat several world class and pound for pound fighters.

            His career and resume as a whole trump Hatton's. Period.

            As for this point forward, I see Floyd in a super fight before I do Hatton.

            Hatton all but said he's targeting Gatti in the post Maussa fight interview, and also mentioned he has mandatories to take care of. Earlier this year, he said he's 'not ready' to fight Floyd until 2006.

            Your whole beef hinges on Floyd not being involved in any Marquee fights anytime soon.

            You will soon be eating humble pie.
            I don't have a hate for Mayweather as a fighter. Mayweather is a jerkoff as a person, and one of the biggest ******s in boxing.

            His biggest wins are against Corrales, Castillo, Hernandez, and Manfredy. All good in there own right, but only two of them really bing top 10 P4P material.

            Hatton has been virtually a protected fighter, but He does have that BIG win against Tszyu which should warrant some recognition.

            In my opinion, Floyd Mayweather is one of the top boxers in the world from a p4p standpoint. Mayweather trains as hard as any athlete in any sport and has no problems making weight. On top of that his natural talent carries him through almost any situation he encounters in the ring. Floyd fights up to the level of the competition and it seems the better the opponent and the more that is at stake the higher Mayweather performs. I still see several stylistic flaws in Mayweather, but so far nobody has been able to expose the flaws and the mistakes that Floyd makes.

            Don't shoot me down just because I think Hatton has a chance at dethroning Mayweather at 140. It is just my opinion after all. And I'm certainly not alone on this.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
              I think it gets signed.

              If it doesn't, there's the chance of the Mayorga / Delahoya winner, the Vargas Mosley winner, Margarito, or a rematch with the Castillo / Corrales winner.

              There are a lot of options.

              If he doesn't fight Judah, I really hope the Hatton fight comes through, but with Hatton not being able to fight for 6 months and his intention to take on Gatti or a tune up in the US, he's not really available until later in 2006.

              Regardless, the point Tu's always droning on about is how he thinks Mayweather is going to go on taking soft fights forever.

              No way.

              Floyd's in with a big name in 2006 without a doubt, possibly two.
              There are only 3 options that will get real boxing fans excited.

              1)Hatton
              2)Judah
              3)The winner of Mosley - Vargas or DLH (who is going to win without a doubt)

              Margarito doesn't make sense in terms of money to Floyd and you and I both know that.

              Corrales - Castillo makes sense on paper, but Floyd already beat these guys. He doesn't really have anything to prove concerning these guys.

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              • Bozo_no no
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                #67
                Originally posted by TuPrincipe
                I don't have a hate for Mayweather as a fighter. Mayweather is a jerkoff as a person, and one of the biggest ******s in boxing.

                His biggest wins are against Corrales, Castillo, Hernandez, and Manfredy. All good in there own right, but only two of them really bing top 10 P4P material.

                Hatton has been virtually a protected fighter, but He does have that BIG win against Tszyu which should warrant some recognition.

                In my opinion, Floyd Mayweather is one of the top boxers in the world from a p4p standpoint. Mayweather trains as hard as any athlete in any sport and has no problems making weight. On top of that his natural talent carries him through almost any situation he encounters in the ring. Floyd fights up to the level of the competition and it seems the better the opponent and the more that is at stake the higher Mayweather performs. I still see several stylistic flaws in Mayweather, but so far nobody has been able to expose the flaws and the mistakes that Floyd makes.

                Don't shoot me down just because I think Hatton has a chance at dethroning Mayweather at 140. It is just my opinion after all. And I'm certainly not alone on this.

                Don't try and twist it into me talking about your opinion on that fight, I never brought anything up of the sort.

                I said you're constantly hating on Floyd at every given opportunity, and always implying he's taking the easy rout and insinuating that's the way it will be for the rest of his career.

                You can think whatever you want about him as a person, that doesn't change what he's done as a fighter.

                As it is right now, he has proven a considerable amount in several weight classes from where he started at 28 years old.

                My only mention of Hatton is how much praise you constantly have for him when he has virtually one impressive accomplishment on his entire resume, and then are so quick to write off Floyd like he's a waste.

                We don't have a lot left to say other than 2006 will settle this little debate we're having.

                Again, I look forward to returning with "I told you so's".

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
                  I think it gets signed.

                  If it doesn't, there's the chance of the Mayorga / Delahoya winner, the Vargas Mosley winner, Margarito, or a rematch with the Castillo / Corrales winner.

                  There are a lot of options.

                  If he doesn't fight Judah, I really hope the Hatton fight comes through, but with Hatton not being able to fight for 6 months and his intention to take on Gatti or a tune up in the US, he's not really available until later in 2006.

                  Regardless, the point Tu's always droning on about is how he thinks Mayweather is going to go on taking soft fights forever.

                  No way.

                  Floyd's in with a big name in 2006 without a doubt, possibly two.

                  I agree with you that I think the Judah fight will get done but I dont agree that there are a lot of options after that.

                  Sure on paper there are a bunch of names but outside of Oscar (which flat out aint happening) I dont see a fight that will get done.

                  Margarito-dont see it, who outside of us knows who this guy is?

                  Mayorga-gets flattened by Tito next is Oscar...why the need?

                  Corrales-does anyone want to see this?

                  Castillo-I would die to see this but Floyd has been there and done that and he knows how difficult it was-no chance of a third fight.

                  Oscar-no chance!

                  Vargas and Mosley-are these superfights that we are to be pumped about?

                  Floyd needs tro sign the Judah fights period!

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                  • TuPrincipe
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
                    Don't try and twist it into me talking about your opinion on that fight, I never brought anything up of the sort.

                    I said you're constantly hating on Floyd at every given opportunity, and always implying he's taking the easy rout and insinuating that's the way it will be for the rest of his career.

                    You can think whatever you want about him as a person, that doesn't change what he's done as a fighter.

                    As it is right now, he has proven a considerable amount in several weight classes from where he started at 28 years old.

                    My only mention of Hatton is how much praise you constantly have for him when he has virtually one impressive accomplishment on his entire resume, and then are so quick to write off Floyd like he's a waste.

                    We don't have a lot left to say other than 2006 will settle this little debate we're having.

                    Again, I look forward to returning with "I told you so's".

                    Bozo.

                    I'm not into your kind of debate. You're blatantly biased and you easily write off Hatton, and many other fighters just because you don't like them.

                    I look forward for these ego's not being able to settle aside there differences and fight on equal terms.

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                    • Bozo_no no
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by scap
                      I agree with you that I think the Judah fight will get done but I dont agree that there are a lot of options after that.

                      Sure on paper there are a bunch of names but outside of Oscar (which flat out aint happening) I dont see a fight that will get done.

                      Margarito-dont see it, who outside of us knows who this guy is?

                      Mayorga-gets flattened by Tito next is Oscar...why the need?

                      Corrales-does anyone want to see this?

                      Castillo-I would die to see this but Floyd has been there and done that and he knows how difficult it was-no chance of a third fight.

                      Oscar-no chance!

                      Vargas and Mosley-are these superfights that we are to be pumped about?

                      Floyd needs tro sign the Judah fights period!

                      You asked for the options, and I gave them to you.

                      You don't seem to think any of them will happen, and that's your opinion.

                      I was just answering your question.

                      Oh, and when I said Mayorga, it was in the context of the Oscar Mayorga winner. If he beats Oscar, it's a marketable fight.

                      Either way, like I said I hope to see the fight with Judah get signed.

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