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  • #51
    Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
    Good luck with that.
    If they keep putting up crap fights eventually people will get tired of them. I don't have a problem canceling them and getting Showtime if they start showing better fights then just stream HBO.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by jsfd26 View Post
      If they keep putting up crap fights eventually people will get tired of them. I don't have a problem canceling them and getting Showtime if they start showing better fights then just stream HBO.
      What crap fights have they put on so far?

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
        What crap fights have they put on so far?
        I think I worded that wrong. I meant to say if they go on with this Broner idea vs Clay/Sykes or Donaire vs Mathebula and keep that trend people will get fed up with them. But I can safely say they haven't put on anything spectacular this year, that's for sure.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by jsfd26 View Post
          I think I worded that wrong. I meant to say if they go on with this Broner idea vs Clay/Sykes or Donaire vs Mathebula and keep that trend people will get fed up with them. But I can safely say they haven't put on anything spectacular this year, that's for sure.
          they havent accepted any of those fights

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          • #55
            Originally posted by jsfd26 View Post
            I think I worded that wrong. I meant to say if they go on with this Broner idea vs Clay/Sykes or Donaire vs Mathebula and keep that trend people will get fed up with them. But I can safely say they haven't put on anything spectacular this year, that's for sure.
            Like DempseyRoll said they haven't accepted it. They also refused Rios-Abril cuz' it wasn't to their satisfactory. But, you mentioned Shobox....This Friday on Shobox Jermaine Taylor fights Caleb Truax, and Erislandy Lara fights Ronald Hears. That is being televised by Showtime.

            How is Donaire-Mathebula or Broner vs Clay/Sykes worse than Moreno-De La Mora that is being televised this Saturday. Fights like Mares-Morel and Guerrero-Aydin shouldn't be headlining and televise card on a big time network. Those are solid opening bouts. But, as a main event? No. Showtime willing to televised Quillin vs Wright is pretty crappy. When Showtime refuses a Bute-Froch fight is pretty mind boggling.

            When a lawyer of a promotional company is the one running the boxing on a network is a conflict of interest. That is a network that will meet it's demise pretty soon because of it.

            The new guy as you called him who is running boxing for HBO, was the one who brought showtime boxing back to a respectable level after Jay Larkin F'd all up by giving contracts to fighters. That new guy is the one who set up the S6 tournament and the 118 4 man tournament as well. That new guy did more than HBO with a fraction of the budget. One thing is for sure HBO isn't doing what they did in the past and that is outbidding themselves. Not overpaying for fights.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by SoggyLungs
              guys it's not like this is his last fight of the year...I think donaire said he wanted to have 3 or 4 fights for 2012. so he can have this fight against mathebula for the IBF world title..and maybe 2 or one more fight before the year ends..possibly nishioka after mathebula and rigdoneaux or mares (assuming mares wins) for his last fight of the year. if donaire beats all those guys he'll have the wbo, ibf, wbc or wba..
              No, after Mathebula the plan is Arce in September.

              So 2012 will be looking for Donaire is WV2, Mathebula, and Arce. Yea people have all the right to criticize for that level of competition...That is pretty weak comp.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
                No, after Mathebula the plan is Arce in September.

                So 2012 will be looking for Donaire is WV2, Mathebula, and Arce. Yea people have all the right to criticize for that level of competition...That is pretty weak comp.
                And The Ring probably gonna keep him #4 p4p somehow. I mean, it's not like he's finishing these guys in great fashion either. People can knock on Martinez' competition lately but he's at least taking them out before the bout is over.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
                  Like DempseyRoll said they haven't accepted it. They also refused Rios-Abril cuz' it wasn't to their satisfactory. But, you mentioned Shobox....This Friday on Shobox Jermaine Taylor fights Caleb Truax, and Erislandy Lara fights Ronald Hears. That is being televised by Showtime.

                  How is Donaire-Mathebula or Broner vs Clay/Sykes worse than Moreno-De La Mora that is being televised this Saturday. Fights like Mares-Morel and Guerrero-Aydin shouldn't be headlining and televise card on a big time network. Those are solid opening bouts. But, as a main event? No. Showtime willing to televised Quillin vs Wright is pretty crappy. When Showtime refuses a Bute-Froch fight is pretty mind boggling.

                  When a lawyer of a promotional company is the one running the boxing on a network is a conflict of interest. That is a network that will meet it's demise pretty soon because of it.

                  The new guy as you called him who is running boxing for HBO, was the one who brought showtime boxing back to a respectable level after Jay Larkin F'd all up by giving contracts to fighters. That new guy is the one who set up the S6 tournament and the 118 4 man tournament as well. That new guy did more than HBO with a fraction of the budget. One thing is for sure HBO isn't doing what they did in the past and that is outbidding themselves. Not overpaying for fights.
                  Yea but that's why I said IF they go ahead with those fights. I guess you could make the argument that, both networks (HBO and Showtime), been showing the same level of fights so far this year. After they show the Peterson-Khan and Berto-Ortiz rematches. Im not gonna mention the BHop-Dawson cause Im not took siked about it to tell you the truth. Let's see which of the two networks pull ahead with the better shows.

                  The thing I like about Showtime is, they have their friday shows which haven't been too bad so far actually.

                  Oh yea, one more thing. Chances are Lara won't be fighting on HBO any more either and Gamboa might be on the same boat. Idk what's the deal with Rigo cause he was fighting on Showtime and now he's gonna be on a HBO PPV. So yea, Showtime wouldn't be a bad choice for ME personally.
                  Last edited by .:: JSFD26 ::.; 04-18-2012, 06:59 PM.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by jsfd26 View Post
                    Yea but that's why I said IF they go ahead with those fights. I guess you could make the argument that, both networks (HBO and Showtime), been showing the same level of fights so far this year. After they show the Peterson-Khan and Berto-Ortiz rematches. Im not gonna mention the BHop-Dawson cause Im not took siked about it to tell you the truth. Let's see which of the two networks pull ahead with the better shows.

                    The thing I like about Showtime is, they have their friday shows which haven't been too bad so far actually.

                    Oh yea, one more thing. Chances are Lara won't be fighting on HBO any more either and Gamboa might be on the same boat. Idk what's the deal with Rigo cause he was fighting on Showtime and now he's gonna be on a HBO PPV. So yea, Showtime wouldn't be a bad choice for ME personally.
                    It's been pretty terrible so far actually. It's been pretty much a Golden Boy, and Haymon showcases. For example look at this Friday Taylor-Traux and Lara-Hearns fight...Enjoy the night of fights.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
                      So he is going after the weakest title holder in the division to unify.

                      And, why isn't this on the July 14 card?

                      HBO better not put this crap on their network.
                      its a tune up bro, before the tune up, before the tuneup..... quit hating

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