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  • vacon04
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    #41
    Originally posted by ThePhantom5
    Both Alvarado and Rios(To a much greater extent) struggled vs much taller guys.

    In Mikes case that tall guy had very good power KO power.

    In Rios's case he had to deal with a good defensive fighter that clinched.

    Marquez has ok power but not defensive, Not tall, has short reach in comparison.

    Both can land and get to Marquez giving both a shot at winning.
    I don't see an advantage for any of those fighters to fight a short Marquez (In comparison to Prescott and Abril) since Marquez is a 100 times better counter puncher than any of those guys. If Rios or Alvarado try to get close to Marquez with their terrible defense, they're going to receive TONS of punches from JMM.

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    • rorschach51
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      #42
      I want to see Rios/Alvarado before either of them fight Marquez.

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      • Evil Abed
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        #43
        Originally posted by vacon04
        I don't see an advantage for any of those fighters to fight a short Marquez (In comparison to Prescott and Abril) since Marquez is a 100 times better counter puncher than any of those guys. If Rios or Alvarado try to get close to Marquez with their terrible defense, they're going to receive TONS of punches from JMM.
        Diaz and Katsidis where both able to have moments vs Marquez on the inside.

        Both Mike and Rios being a lot stronger and bigger than both gives them a shot.

        Will allow them to take his punches better as well. Diaz and Katsidis gassed vs Marquez.

        Alvarado aint gassing vs anyone. He has freakish stamina even after taking everything from Prescott he had a ton of energy.

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        • vacon04
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          #44
          Originally posted by ThePhantom5
          Diaz and Katsidis where both able to have moments vs Marquez on the inside.

          Both Mike and Rios being a lot stronger and bigger than both gives them a shot.

          Will allow them to take his punches better as well. Diaz and Katsidis gassed vs Marquez.

          Alvarado aint gassing vs anyone. He has freakish stamina even after taking everything from Prescott he had a ton of energy.
          I don't think that they "gassed", but actually they were broken down by Marquez.

          Receiving punches from all angles and all the time makes the body generate a lot of stress, which makes it also use more energy and therefore makes a boxer get tired earlier.

          Also in both fights (Katsidis and Díaz) you can clearly see that Marquez tends to move around the ring a lot, making these guys get tired faster than they normally do.

          About them being bigger, I agree that they are bigger and stronger than Díaz for example, but I still don't think they're harder punchers than lets say Pacquiao.

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            #45
            Originally posted by vacon04
            I don't think that they "gassed", but actually they were broken down by Marquez.

            Receiving punches from all angles and all the time makes the body generate a lot of stress, which makes it also use more energy and therefore makes a boxer get tired earlier.

            Also in both fights (Katsidis and Díaz) you can clearly see that Marquez tends to move around the ring a lot, making these guys get tired faster than they normally do.

            About them being bigger, I agree that they are bigger and stronger than Díaz for example, but I still don't think they're harder punchers than lets say Pacquiao.
            Of course not. But Mayweather and Kats KD Marquez.

            Juan Diaz hurt Marquez. I agree about the breaking down. Though Jaun showed vs Campbell that he could handle adversity well.

            Katsidis was pure breakdown.

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            • GodInFleshSuit
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              #46
              All would be entertaining fights. I hope Rios isn't rewarded with this fight though. I'd like to see Alvarado in there but I think it'll be Gesta. Who f*#%ing knows with sleazy @ss Arum though!

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              • Ruderic21
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                #47
                Top Rank wants to make Rios into a star, since all they have is Donaire, Chavez jr. , and Bradley . They will sacrifice Gesta to have Marquez finally beat a Filipino, and make the Mexican nationalist happy. Katsidis dropped Marquez and at 140 so will Alvarado, let's see,if he gets a shot at that WBO Interim title. I doubt it too much money at play for a 4th Pacman fight depending on a Bradley victory.

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                • LeG00N
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                  #48
                  I definitely don't want to see Alvarado in there.... with Marquez.

                  he has an even smaller name than the nobody Rios.

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                  • GodInFleshSuit
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Ruderic21
                    Top Rank wants to make Rios into a star, since all they have is Donaire, Chavez jr. , and Bradley . They will sacrifice Gesta to have Marquez finally beat a Filipino, and make the Mexican nationalist happy. Katsidis dropped Marquez and at 140 so will Alvarado, let's see,if he gets a shot at that WBO Interim title. I doubt it too much money at play for a 4th Pacman fight depending on a Bradley victory.
                    I don't think Alvarado would last long enough to drop Marquez. I see what your saying but look at the way Prescott outboxed Alvarado before he eventually slowed down and got KO'd. Marquez would KO Alvarado pretty quick I think. The first few rounds would be entertaining though.

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                    • Hougigo
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Camp Beast
                      All would be entertaining fights. I hope Rios isn't rewarded with this fight though. I'd like to see Alvarado in there but I think it'll be Gesta. Who f*#%ing knows with sleazy @ss Arum though!
                      It's going to be Gesta

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