Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez: Chavez Scared To Fight Without Testing

[Russian Crushin]

He wants Chavez to take the test because it's obvious that he's a drug cheat. He hasn't come out and said it because he's not that kind of guy and because it'd probably harm his chances of securing the fight.

Look at MMA. A few months back Overeem was asked to take a test and suddenly left the country. He then said he didn't get the test request until he was already outside the US and there was a mix-up in communication. Looked incredibly su****ious but under the rules they had at the time he got away with it. So this time Nevada used stronger testing and they caught him.

Better testing usually comes about because something or someone looks su****ious. Of course you are more likely to want a steroids test against someone as su****ious as Chavez if you can get it.

Someone has to be the first opponent that you test. Peterson never requested it before the Khan rematch, yet Khan accepted instantly. Berto didn't request it before the Ortiz rematch. Who cares? If he had tested Macklin but not Barker would you be complaining about that as well? Does a fighter have to test everyone from their pro debut onwards to get your approval?

What I find really ****** is that when Floyd/his father came out and accused Pacquiao of using, everyone said it was wrong to accuse like that. Fair enough. But when Martinez simply asks for better testing without accusing someone, people are critical of that as well.

Are you seriously saying Martinez can't request a test against a guy who looks very guilty unless he requests one against every single opponent? Of course you're more likely to want testing if you believe you are facing a drugs cheat in the biggest fight of your career. Same reason Floyd wanted it. Probably the same reason Peterson and Berto wanted it but it doesn't matter because Ortiz and Khan stepped up rather than complaining. I guess some boxers have less to hide than others.

I would prefer it if every fighter took full testing for every fight. But if that doesn't happen then at least I'd like to see them have strong testing for their biggest fights.

Thats a simply BS compromise. So its ok if Sergio possibly cheats in "smaller" fights.

So Dibella proclaims that if JCC fights him, there will need to be testing, but then when asking months before the macklin fight if there is testing for that fight, he simply says its not necessary. WHY isnt it necessary?

How do you say oh if i fight this guy i want testing, but theres no need for testing against anybody else

People seem to think that if 2 fighters dont agree on drug testing, then NONE of the fighters can take the test. But thats bullshiiit. If it turns out that Martinez cant get JCC to agree to the tests, i fully expect Sergio to take the tests by himself to prove his clean

[Russian Crushin]

Says who? You?

....Yes ma'am

[ny123]

No its the fact that this drug testing issue in boxing is simple "politics" and not an actually attempt to fight clean. It was financially viable in that fight too

Tests in a fight arent just about getting the other guy tested but also testing yourself. If it turns out there will be no required testing for JCC in this fight, will Sergio still take the tests by himself to show he's clean?

Its not just politics its a real serious issue that needs to be dealt with.

I dont get your point. If Martinez is asking Chavez for tests its a given that he is going to be subjected to the same testing. He is asking Chavez because he is su****ious of him and he has real reasons to be.

[IMDAZED]

....Yes ma'am

Yeah, that pretty much makes that "fact" fiction.

[Russian Crushin]

Its not just politics its a real serious issue that needs to be dealt with.

I dont get your point. If Martinez is asking Chavez for tests its a given that he is going to be subjected to the same testing. He is asking Chavez because he is su****ious of him and he has real reasons to be.

Its almost pure politics

Just like i said in my previous post, If they cant come to an agreement with JCC for testing, will Sergio still test himself to prove he's clean?

Testing isnt simply about trying to catch the other guy but also proving you're clean, correct?

[Russian Crushin]

Yeah, that pretty much makes that "fact" fiction.

......cool

[IMDAZED]

Its almost pure politics

Just like i said in my previous post, If they cant come to an agreement with JCC for testing, will Sergio still test himself to prove he's clean?

Testing isnt simply about trying to catch the other guy but also proving you're clean, correct?

According to who? You? You're talking out of your ass. Again. In the same thread.

[Russian Crushin]

According to who? You? You're talking out of your ass. Again. In the same thread.

Ummmmm okay

[Clegg]

Thats a simply BS compromise. So its ok if Sergio possibly cheats in "smaller" fights.

No, it's not OK, but it's better to have good testing for some fights rather than none. Not sure how you're unable to grasp this.

How do you say oh if i fight this guy i want testing, but theres no need for testing against anybody else

If that guy is highly su****iuous., has cheated to use drugs before and has avoided all testing for his previous fight after putting on more weight post-fight than any middleweight in history.

Are you actually saying that you would prefer for them to not have testing for this fight?

[the_kid_08]

I heard all the fighters down the wildcard gym regularly go to each others houses for steroid parties where their all injecting their assess with steroids and laughing and joking!!!