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  • IMDAZED
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    #31
    Originally posted by Russian Crushin
    I wouldnt trust chavez either but you cant go around saying one of your fights there is no need for testing but then want testing in your next fight

    Sounds pretty hypocritical. You either support testing (which includes tests on yourself) or you dont, Not for just one person for 1 time
    Why not? You don't know he's reasons.

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    • Russian Crushin
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      #32
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      Why not? You don't know he's reasons.
      His reasons for avoiding drug testing? You're right i dont

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        #33
        Originally posted by Russian Crushin
        So why is macklin exempt from taking those same test?

        You only answered why chavez should take it
        U asked why would Martinez ask only Chavez and not Macklin and I told u why. If u dont understand my response I dont know what to tell u.

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          #34
          Originally posted by ny123
          U asked why would Martinez ask only Chavez and not Macklin and I told u why. If u dont understand my response I dont know what to tell u.
          Why shoudnt macklin have been tested?

          Stop tippy toeing around the question

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            #35
            Originally posted by Russian Crushin
            Why shoudnt macklin have been tested?

            Stop tippy toeing around the question
            Why would he be able to answer that question?

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              #36
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Why would he be able to answer that question?
              .....Exactly

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                #37
                Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                Why shoudnt macklin have been tested?

                Stop tippy toeing around the question
                In every fight where its financially viable testing should take place imo. U asked why ask Chavez and not Macklin and its clear why by just using common sense. If u are seeing two girls for example and one u know has a prostitution conviction and the other is a school librarian which one would u question? You're right that both might be sluts but its clear why u would suspect one more than the other.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                  I wouldnt trust chavez either but you cant go around saying one of your fights there is no need for testing but then want testing in your next fight

                  Sounds pretty hypocritical. You either support testing (which includes tests on yourself) or you dont, Not for just one person for 1 time
                  He wants Chavez to take the test because it's obvious that he's a drug cheat. He hasn't come out and said it because he's not that kind of guy and because it'd probably harm his chances of securing the fight.

                  Look at MMA. A few months back Overeem was asked to take a test and suddenly left the country. He then said he didn't get the test request until he was already outside the US and there was a mix-up in communication. Looked incredibly su****ious but under the rules they had at the time he got away with it. So this time Nevada used stronger testing and they caught him.

                  Better testing usually comes about because something or someone looks su****ious. Of course you are more likely to want a steroids test against someone as su****ious as Chavez if you can get it.

                  Someone has to be the first opponent that you test. Peterson never requested it before the Khan rematch, yet Khan accepted instantly. Berto didn't request it before the Ortiz rematch. Who cares? If he had tested Macklin but not Barker would you be complaining about that as well? Does a fighter have to test everyone from their pro debut onwards to get your approval?

                  What I find really ****** is that when Floyd/his father came out and accused Pacquiao of using, everyone said it was wrong to accuse like that. Fair enough. But when Martinez simply asks for better testing without accusing someone, people are critical of that as well.

                  Are you seriously saying Martinez can't request a test against a guy who looks very guilty unless he requests one against every single opponent? Of course you're more likely to want testing if you believe you are facing a drugs cheat in the biggest fight of your career. Same reason Floyd wanted it. Probably the same reason Peterson and Berto wanted it but it doesn't matter because Ortiz and Khan stepped up rather than complaining. I guess some boxers have less to hide than others.

                  I would prefer it if every fighter took full testing for every fight. But if that doesn't happen then at least I'd like to see them have strong testing for their biggest fights.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ny123
                    In every fight where its financially viable testing should take place imo. U asked why ask Chavez and not Macklin and its clear why by just using common sense. If u are seeing two girls for example and one u know has a prostitution conviction and the other is a school librarian which one would u question? You're right that both might be sluts but its clear why u would suspect one more than the other.
                    No its the fact that this drug testing issue in boxing is simple "politics" and not an actually attempt to fight clean. It was financially viable in that fight too

                    Tests in a fight arent just about getting the other guy tested but also testing yourself. If it turns out there will be no required testing for JCC in this fight, will Sergio still take the tests by himself to show he's clean?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                      No its the fact that this drug testing issue in boxing is simple "politics" and not an actually attempt to fight clean. It was financially viable in that fight too

                      Tests in a fight arent just about getting the other guy tested but also testing yourself. If it turns out there will be no required testing for JCC in this fight, will Sergio still take the tests by himself to show he's clean?
                      Says who? You?

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