the difference between me & most people on this site is i don't just watch the prizefighters & undefeated guys like most here. i've been following HW boxing since i was 14 years old. i have a collection of over 2000 HW fights. i watch the all levels of the division. on this site a guy losses 2 fights & he's a bum, etc. most here have not seen as many HW fights as me. so many here call certain guys bums that are 2 time champions etc. i don't pay any attention to them because they have no idea & many get their knowledge looking at boxingrec & not the fights themselves. fury beat dereck chisora, nicolai firtha & neven pajkic which means he is right now at worst a B level fighter & he's 23. chisora came out of nowhere & should have got the nod vs helenius & he gave vitali the best fight he's had since the comeback. neven pajkic has beaten all the C level guys including firtha. fury is much better then most give him credit for. he is not all hype. his recent fights have been pretty excited although maybe stopped premature but still exciting. he beat chisora easily while both helenius & vitali had issues & came out of the fight injured. they were both retreating as well. neither pushed chisora around but fury did just that. he will walk through rogan tonight & i'm sure everyone can agree with this. he is much better then people give him credit for. he has been floored & got up. he has shown improvement & ability to rebound when things are not going his way. i think he is a colourful HW & someone who has nothing but time on his side. his bum of the month club starts tonight. pajkic, firtha & chisora are no bums & rogan is just average & a step below the others but still a small threat. after tonight he should take out sexton, harrison, dallas & price if possible but that won't happen yet. rogan will be lucky to see the 5th round.
Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury: Questions Linger, Division's Hype or Hope?
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Chisora was a 260lb fat slob in that fight, context, and Helenius injured himself 6 weeks before the fight.the difference between me & most people on this site is i don't just watch the prizefighters & undefeated guys like most here. i've been following HW boxing since i was 14 years old. i have a collection of over 2000 HW fights. i watch the all levels of the division. on this site a guy losses 2 fights & he's a bum, etc. most here have not seen as many HW fights as me. so many here call certain guys bums that are 2 time champions etc. i don't pay any attention to them because they have no idea & many get their knowledge looking at boxingrec & not the fights themselves. fury beat dereck chisora, nicolai firtha & neven pajkic which means he is right now at worst a B level fighter & he's 23. chisora came out of nowhere & should have got the nod vs helenius & he gave vitali the best fight he's had since the comeback. neven pajkic has beaten all the C level guys including firtha. fury is much better then most give him credit for. he is not all hype. his recent fights have been pretty excited although maybe stopped premature but still exciting. he beat chisora easily while both helenius & vitali had issues & came out of the fight injured. they were both retreating as well. neither pushed chisora around but fury did just that. he will walk through rogan tonight & i'm sure everyone can agree with this. he is much better then people give him credit for. he has been floored & got up. he has shown improvement & ability to rebound when things are not going his way. i think he is a colourful HW & someone who has nothing but time on his side. his bum of the month club starts tonight. pajkic, firtha & chisora are no bums & rogan is just average & a step below the others but still a small threat. after tonight he should take out sexton, harrison, dallas & price if possible but that won't happen yet. rogan will be lucky to see the 5th round.
Fury is a loud mouth idiot and some don't like that, me being one. Also when you vacate your belt when a Price fight is being pushed and claim to do so because you're "moving on to world level" then fight a semi-retired cab driver you open yourself up to criticism. Fury's okay but he's not a elite HW prospect the way some try to portray him.
all these guys are more talented than Fury
Boytsov
Helenius
Pulev
Glazkov
Szpilka
Solis
Chisora
Gerber
Price
Rivas
Perez
Abdusalamov
Dinu
Ortiz
Wallisch
Rozhnov has only had 1 pro fight (against Owen Beck) and i say with confidence that he's more talented. There's 16 HW's.Comment
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Deontay wilder? do you rate him?Chisora was a 260lb fat slob in that fight, context, and Helenius injured himself 6 weeks before the fight.
Fury is a loud mouth idiot and some don't like that, me being one. Also when you vacate your belt when a Price fight is being pushed and claim to do so because you're "moving on to world level" then fight a semi-retired cab driver you open yourself up to criticism. Fury's okay but he's not a elite HW prospect the way some try to portray him.
all these guys are more talented than Fury
Boytsov
Helenius
Pulev
Glazkov
Szpilka
Solis
Chisora
Gerber
Price
Rivas
Perez
Abdusalamov
Dinu
Ortiz
Wallisch
Rozhnov has only had 1 pro fight (against Owen Beck) and i say with confidence that he's more talented. There's 16 HW's.Comment
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No. He's quite flawed and protected is too weak a word to describe how hes beeing handled. Rozhnov's resume is considerably stronger and he only has 1 fight. He may turn into something but i don't bother at this point until he fights a boarderline decent journeyman and i am skeptical of him in general.
I should have listed Jennings and Mitchell (although i think Mitchell is ridiculously overrated and will be exposed as being the limited slugger he is). Maybe Malik Scott too, he's feather fisted but he's definitely more skillled than Fury.Last edited by Mikhnienko; 04-14-2012, 02:39 PM.Comment
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How many of these guys you list are under 27?Chisora was a 260lb fat slob in that fight, context, and Helenius injured himself 6 weeks before the fight.
Fury is a loud mouth idiot and some don't like that, me being one. Also when you vacate your belt when a Price fight is being pushed and claim to do so because you're "moving on to world level" then fight a semi-retired cab driver you open yourself up to criticism. Fury's okay but he's not a elite HW prospect the way some try to portray him.
all these guys are more talented than Fury
Boytsov
Helenius
Pulev
Glazkov
Szpilka
Solis
Chisora
Gerber
Price
Rivas
Perez
Abdusalamov
Dinu
Ortiz
Wallisch
Rozhnov has only had 1 pro fight (against Owen Beck) and i say with confidence that he's more talented. There's 16 HW's.Comment
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