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  • joe strong
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    #11
    the difference between me & most people on this site is i don't just watch the prizefighters & undefeated guys like most here. i've been following HW boxing since i was 14 years old. i have a collection of over 2000 HW fights. i watch the all levels of the division. on this site a guy losses 2 fights & he's a bum, etc. most here have not seen as many HW fights as me. so many here call certain guys bums that are 2 time champions etc. i don't pay any attention to them because they have no idea & many get their knowledge looking at boxingrec & not the fights themselves. fury beat dereck chisora, nicolai firtha & neven pajkic which means he is right now at worst a B level fighter & he's 23. chisora came out of nowhere & should have got the nod vs helenius & he gave vitali the best fight he's had since the comeback. neven pajkic has beaten all the C level guys including firtha. fury is much better then most give him credit for. he is not all hype. his recent fights have been pretty excited although maybe stopped premature but still exciting. he beat chisora easily while both helenius & vitali had issues & came out of the fight injured. they were both retreating as well. neither pushed chisora around but fury did just that. he will walk through rogan tonight & i'm sure everyone can agree with this. he is much better then people give him credit for. he has been floored & got up. he has shown improvement & ability to rebound when things are not going his way. i think he is a colourful HW & someone who has nothing but time on his side. his bum of the month club starts tonight. pajkic, firtha & chisora are no bums & rogan is just average & a step below the others but still a small threat. after tonight he should take out sexton, harrison, dallas & price if possible but that won't happen yet. rogan will be lucky to see the 5th round.

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    • Mikhnienko
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      #12
      Originally posted by joe strong
      the difference between me & most people on this site is i don't just watch the prizefighters & undefeated guys like most here. i've been following HW boxing since i was 14 years old. i have a collection of over 2000 HW fights. i watch the all levels of the division. on this site a guy losses 2 fights & he's a bum, etc. most here have not seen as many HW fights as me. so many here call certain guys bums that are 2 time champions etc. i don't pay any attention to them because they have no idea & many get their knowledge looking at boxingrec & not the fights themselves. fury beat dereck chisora, nicolai firtha & neven pajkic which means he is right now at worst a B level fighter & he's 23. chisora came out of nowhere & should have got the nod vs helenius & he gave vitali the best fight he's had since the comeback. neven pajkic has beaten all the C level guys including firtha. fury is much better then most give him credit for. he is not all hype. his recent fights have been pretty excited although maybe stopped premature but still exciting. he beat chisora easily while both helenius & vitali had issues & came out of the fight injured. they were both retreating as well. neither pushed chisora around but fury did just that. he will walk through rogan tonight & i'm sure everyone can agree with this. he is much better then people give him credit for. he has been floored & got up. he has shown improvement & ability to rebound when things are not going his way. i think he is a colourful HW & someone who has nothing but time on his side. his bum of the month club starts tonight. pajkic, firtha & chisora are no bums & rogan is just average & a step below the others but still a small threat. after tonight he should take out sexton, harrison, dallas & price if possible but that won't happen yet. rogan will be lucky to see the 5th round.
      Chisora was a 260lb fat slob in that fight, context, and Helenius injured himself 6 weeks before the fight.

      Fury is a loud mouth idiot and some don't like that, me being one. Also when you vacate your belt when a Price fight is being pushed and claim to do so because you're "moving on to world level" then fight a semi-retired cab driver you open yourself up to criticism. Fury's okay but he's not a elite HW prospect the way some try to portray him.

      all these guys are more talented than Fury

      Boytsov
      Helenius
      Pulev
      Glazkov
      Szpilka
      Solis
      Chisora
      Gerber
      Price
      Rivas
      Perez
      Abdusalamov
      Dinu
      Ortiz
      Wallisch

      Rozhnov has only had 1 pro fight (against Owen Beck) and i say with confidence that he's more talented. There's 16 HW's.

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      • King of Anal
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        #13
        Originally posted by Mikhnienko
        Chisora was a 260lb fat slob in that fight, context, and Helenius injured himself 6 weeks before the fight.

        Fury is a loud mouth idiot and some don't like that, me being one. Also when you vacate your belt when a Price fight is being pushed and claim to do so because you're "moving on to world level" then fight a semi-retired cab driver you open yourself up to criticism. Fury's okay but he's not a elite HW prospect the way some try to portray him.

        all these guys are more talented than Fury

        Boytsov
        Helenius
        Pulev
        Glazkov
        Szpilka
        Solis
        Chisora
        Gerber
        Price
        Rivas
        Perez
        Abdusalamov
        Dinu
        Ortiz
        Wallisch

        Rozhnov has only had 1 pro fight (against Owen Beck) and i say with confidence that he's more talented. There's 16 HW's.
        Deontay wilder? do you rate him?

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        • Mikhnienko
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          #14
          Originally posted by Larry Wright
          Deontay wilder? do you rate him?
          No. He's quite flawed and protected is too weak a word to describe how hes beeing handled. Rozhnov's resume is considerably stronger and he only has 1 fight. He may turn into something but i don't bother at this point until he fights a boarderline decent journeyman and i am skeptical of him in general.

          I should have listed Jennings and Mitchell (although i think Mitchell is ridiculously overrated and will be exposed as being the limited slugger he is). Maybe Malik Scott too, he's feather fisted but he's definitely more skillled than Fury.
          Last edited by Mikhnienko; 04-14-2012, 02:39 PM.

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          • joe strong
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            #15
            Originally posted by Mikhnienko
            Chisora was a 260lb fat slob in that fight, context, and Helenius injured himself 6 weeks before the fight.

            Fury is a loud mouth idiot and some don't like that, me being one. Also when you vacate your belt when a Price fight is being pushed and claim to do so because you're "moving on to world level" then fight a semi-retired cab driver you open yourself up to criticism. Fury's okay but he's not a elite HW prospect the way some try to portray him.

            all these guys are more talented than Fury

            Boytsov
            Helenius
            Pulev
            Glazkov
            Szpilka
            Solis
            Chisora
            Gerber
            Price
            Rivas
            Perez
            Abdusalamov
            Dinu
            Ortiz
            Wallisch

            Rozhnov has only had 1 pro fight (against Owen Beck) and i say with confidence that he's more talented. There's 16 HW's.
            How many of these guys you list are under 27?

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            • 4Corners
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              #16
              F**k Tyson Fury. He'll still lose to David Price IF/WHEN they fight.

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