Someone explain how Canelo is "GREEN"

[NearHypnos]

I think he's "green" in the sense he doesn't deserve a shot at Floyd. He's not ready for that type of competition imo. You don't go from Leapfrog Cintron to Floyd. He should be fighting guys like Lara, even P.Will and showing he's legit. You dont go to Floyd when lesser names are thought to be better fighters than you lol (like lara). I think he IS legit, but he needs to show us that he isn't getting a free ride for being a mexican ginger (I mean no offense by this).


We can talk all the crap we want on Jr, but at least the guy is fighting decent dudes. Sure, he's ducking Martinez..but with good reason. lol.

[SCtrojansbaby]

I think he's "green" in the sense he doesn't deserve a shot at Floyd. He's not ready for that type of competition imo. You don't go from Leapfrog Cintron to Floyd. He should be fighting guys like Lara, even P.Will and showing he's legit. You dont go to Floyd when lesser names are thought to be better fighters than you lol (like lara). I think he IS legit, but he needs to show us that he isn't getting a free ride for being a mexican ginger (I mean no offense by this).

That is ****** logic either you want him to step up or you don't you can't pu$$yfoot saying he should step up a little but not all the way.

[NearHypnos]

That is ****** logic either you want him to step up or you don't you can't pu$$yfoot saying he should step up a little but not all the way.

Lmfao. Somehow you've managed to twist everything I said around. I'll forgive your ignorance.

He doesn't deserve Floyd. He needs to be fighting guys like Kirkland, Lara, etc. It's not about weather he moves up in competition or not. It's more like he needs to FIGHT some competition, period to deserve a shot at Floyd. Earning doesn't equal stepping up, bro. Different things.

[NEELZ]

I like Alvarez. He has power and fine technique and he comes to fight. I'm just as interested as seeing his fight on May 5th as I am in seeing the Mayweather fight. Truth be told, I might be more interested in his fight because I know he's coming to take Mosley down, and Mayweather, I suspect, will fight to win a points decision.

I don't buy the "green" label, either. I don't care if he hasn't faced elite competition at 21. 39 pro fights, where the opponent is also a professional fighter and is trying to beat you, is a learning experience. Sparring and training is a learning experience. I think it would be foolhardy to put a 20 year old fighter against elite competition. He is not emotionally or really physically matured yet. So, I find all the hate directed at Alvarez for not fighing so-called elite fighters by 20 or 21 to be very misplaced. His pace iand transition to bigger and better fights is exactly right.

[SCtrojansbaby]

Lmfao. Somehow you've managed to twist everything I said around. I'll forgive your ignorance.

He doesn't deserve Floyd. He needs to be fighting guys like Kirkland, Lara, etc. It's not about weather he moves up in competition or not. It's more like he needs to FIGHT some competition, period to deserve a shot at Floyd. Earning doesn't equal stepping up, bro. Different things.

LOL what you're saying only makes sense if Floyd gave a shyt about fighting the best competition. Floyd clearly doesn't or else Floyd himself would be fighting guys like Lara

[_original_]

I agree, I hate the whole spew about him being too green and yada yada. He has nearly 40 fights, Andre Ward has 25 and is already racking up quite the resume (yes I'm aware of his amateur credentials, Canelo has 15 more pro fights than him). Wilfred Benitez fought Cervantes for a world title at age 17, so I don't see why people should bring his age up.

Really though, I think after Mosley it's all going to be a hard journey to travel for Canelo. He'll probably get Mayweather or Kirkland in the fall, and possibly Cotto next year or Lara or Ortiz. We're really gonna find out if he's a hype job or the real deal in the upcoming years (if we don't find out by Grandpa Mosley).

[SCtrojansbaby]

I agree, I hate the whole spew about him being too green and yada yada. He has nearly 40 fights, Andre Ward has 25 and is already racking up quite the resume (yes I'm aware of his amateur credentials, Canelo has 15 more pro fights than him). Wilfred Benitez fought Cervantes for a world title at age 17, so I don't see why people should bring his age up.

Really though, I think after Mosley it's all going to be a hard journey to travel for Canelo. He'll probably get Mayweather or Kirkland in the fall, and possibly Cotto next year or Lara or Ortiz. We're really gonna find out if he's a hype job or the real deal in the upcoming years (if we don't find out by Grandpa Mosley).

lol Andre Ward is 7 years older than Canelo

The number of pro fights mean nothing the greatest Mexican fighter of all time Julio Cesar Chavez had 43 pro fights and was 22 before he fought his first "dangerous opponent"

[NearHypnos]

LOL what you're saying only makes sense if Floyd gave a shyt about fighting the best competition. Floyd clearly doesn't or else Floyd himself would be fighting guys like Lara

Are you implying Floyd hasn't earned his stripes? Lara has and therefore Floyd should seek him out? Because we all know Lara to be indisputably the best at 154, likewise for Canelo? Canelo, Lara, etc haven't proved anything compared to guys like FLoyd, Pac, Cotto to a lesser extent. You don't go "Hey, I should move up in competition. I WANT FLOYD MAYWEATHER! I DESERVE FLOYD MAYWEATHER!" Meanwhile....you haven't even tried to earn the honor of being remotely close to the best in your division.

[Marcov]

He's not green, but he has not fought the level of competition that I expect from a fighter that is 39-0 and making his 4th title defence. Still he fought better comp than Chavez Jr.

[SCtrojansbaby]

Are you implying Floyd hasn't earned his stripes? Lara has and therefore Floyd should seek him out? Because we all know Lara to be indisputably the best at 154, likewise for Canelo? Canelo, Lara, etc haven't proved anything compared to guys like FLoyd, Pac, Cotto to a lesser extent. You don't go "Hey, I should move up in competition. I WANT FLOYD MAYWEATHER! I DESERVE FLOYD MAYWEATHER!" Meanwhile....you haven't even tried to earn the honor of being remotely close to the best in your division.

lol what does all that crap you wrote even mean?

Point is Floyd doesn't give 2 shyts about fighting the best fighters NO ONE disputes that. Hence its irrelevant how "deserving" Canelo is since Floyd isn't going to fight the most deserving opponent any way.