Originally posted by Larryx2011
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Someone explain how Canelo is "GREEN"
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he's 21 years old
green is a reference to fruit
not ripe
canelo needs/has needed time
not just fights
time
he's getting there.
he's not fast and he's easy to hit, but the kid is a very good looking offensive fighter. nice technical puncher. it's a shame he uses winning gloves, because the kid can crack.
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Originally posted by Roman Moreno View PostYea no one is saying different. Doesn't mean he isn't a green fighter. Doesn't mean he still isn't really learning his craft on the job now does it? He didn't have an extensive amateur background. And, the amateur background he does have isn't World amateur experience. Pretty much just Sinaloa experience.
Broner at this stage is more seasoned than Canelo is so is Gary Russell Jr and Mickey Garcia. More advance in his career. And, Broner is somewhat green too. He is not fully developed and Canelo is far from fully developed. Having the GREEN belt doesn't change that.
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Originally posted by New England View Posthe's 21 years old
green is a reference to fruit
not ripe
canelo needs/has needed time
not just fights
time
he's getting there.
he's not fast and he's easy to hit, but the kid is a very good looking offensive fighter. nice technical puncher. it's a shame he uses winning gloves, because the kid can crack.
If he wasn't ready for a title he shouldn't stepped into that role...
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Floyd wouldn't hear the end of it if there was a guy out there to fight but he broke down the guys background like that..."um well he doesn't have any amateur experience so I'm not going to fight him"...I understand both aspects but if every top guy dissected every opponents background, we would either have a lot more so called "ducks", guys not breaking records as far youngest champs or more good fighters fighting for vacant titles instead of getting a crack at the big dogs!!
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Originally posted by Roman Moreno View PostI can only speak for myself. I know people believe Canelo could beat Kirkland. Personally myself, I think Kirkland is too big of a step up for him. And, I have said this numerous times before and I think Kirkland stops him. I'm actually hoping that Canelo team and Golden Boy are ****** enough -and I think they are TBH- to make the Canelo-Kirkland fight just because of how Kirkland looked in his fight with Molina. That would be a mistake on their part IMO.
Personally I think a good fight for Canelo would be Gabriel Rosado-Joel Julio winner. I think that could be considered somewhat of a step up compared to his level of comp. And, if he beats the winner then fight a Delvin Rodriguez, then if he wins that OK now go for the P-Will, Kirkland, Molina, Lara, Trout, Cotto, now if you beat one of them. OK, now we can talk about him being as ready as he is going to be for a Mayweather.
There should always be a gradual step ups for fighters. Fights where you can perfect your craft, learn from it. There hasn't been that for Canelo yet IMO. A shot to pieces Mosley might be a step up for Canelo really it might be a tough fight for him. I wouldn't be surprise. That's how unproven this kid is to me.
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Originally posted by New England View Posthe's 21 years old
green is a reference to fruit
not ripe
canelo needs/has needed time
not just fights
time
he's getting there.
he's not fast and he's easy to hit, but the kid is a very good looking offensive fighter. nice technical puncher. it's a shame he uses winning gloves, because the kid can crack.
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Canelo is a much more well rounded boxer then Kirkland. Kirkland has looked questionable for more than just then just his last fight. Canelo has a Much better chance at getting bigger fights because of hos status in the Mexican community, his age, and dominance as being an undefeated fighter. You cannot rate Chavez,Jr. With Alvarez because of Alvarez's offense is not stop and he is learning with each fight.
And of course GR, Jr has a much more extensive back round in amateur fights. He was an Olympic Fighter, who sadly messed up his chance at getting a medal. There have been many boxers who never had an extensive amateur career, including in Mexico. It's not unknown. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr., Sergio Martinez, Marquez, Morales, and many more.
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Its because in the 21st century you're "green" until you lose and then when you lose you're "exposed" and if you lose twice you're "A shell of himself" or "past your prime" which oddly enough is reference to when you were "green"...
Boxing is hard...
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