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  • D4thincarnation
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    #71
    Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
    For me it's Wladimir or Lennox. Foreman was powerful but he was knocking out guys who were a lot smaller than todays heavyweights.
    Wlad?

    If Wlad has the most powerful right hand in heavyweight history, then Haye must have the best chin in heavyweight history, because Wlad landed a couple of flush right hands on Haye's chin and Haye was not even troubled.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
      Oh, he's a few inches taller, has weighed more most of his career, has almost the same KO/TKO ratio, has had more title fights and defenses, has a higher ratio of actual KO's (21 to Foreman's 24 overall with far less fights) and he has faced much bigger opposition.

      Lb for lb they probably hit about as hard as one another but if it could be measured on a scale similar to how Drago was in Rocky, Wladimir hits harder than any other heavyweight. I would bet my right eye on it.
      You would be blind in one eye than. And did you just trying making a comparison with a movie? Lmao!! Wlad is most certainly a big puncher, but he's the type of fighter to wear you down, not bludgeon you or take you out with one punch. Size has little to do with raw power. If it did guys like Madden Hamed and Sam Langford wouldn't be all time great punchers.

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        #73
        dempsey by bias

        on a serious note foreman

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          #74
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation
          Wlad?

          If Wlad has the most powerful right hand in heavyweight history, then Haye must have the best chin in heavyweight history, because Wlad landed a couple of flush right hands on Haye's chin and Haye was not even troubled.
          Haye didn't get hit flush and was concentrated more on surviving than winning. It's easy for a pro boxer to take shots when all they do is look for them coming and ignore offense altogether. How did you like the one punch shots on Thompson, Brock and Chambers? How about those? How about beating the mess out of Austin with never having even thrown a right hand.

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            #75
            Originally posted by JAB5239
            You would be blind in one eye than. And did you just trying making a comparison with a movie? Lmao!! Wlad is most certainly a big puncher, but he's the type of fighter to wear you down, not bludgeon you or take you out with one punch. Size has little to do with raw power. If it did guys like Madden Hamed and Sam Langford wouldn't be all time great punchers.
            I disagree very seriously on this whole post. Wlad has the size and technique. This also then has translated into his results.

            That's all I will say.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
              Haye didn't get hit flush and was concentrated more on surviving than winning. It's easy for a pro boxer to take shots when all they do is look for them coming and ignore offense altogether. How did you like the one punch shots on Thompson, Brock and Chambers? How about those? How about beating the mess out of Austin with never having even thrown a right hand.


              Yes he did, Wlad landed the straight right a few times and Haye was not even troubled.

              Thompson, Brock, Chambers

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                #77
                Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
                I disagree very seriously on this whole post. Wlad has the size and technique. This also then has translated into his results.

                That's all I will say.
                You can disagree all you want, but its still true. If it weren't if would mean size is the end all of punching power. We know for a fact that isn't true. Wlad has an excellent right, I'm not taking anything away from him. But he wears an opponent down, he rarely just takes them out. Its for that reason most find him boring.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation


                  Yes he did, Wlad landed the straight right a few times and Haye was not even troubled.

                  Thompson, Brock, Chambers
                  Haye was always moving as those shots landed. Do you mean to sit her and try and say that Haye can take a flush landed right hand from WK? Is that what you are saying? Really dude? Really?

                  Oh and aren't Thompson, Brock and Chambers at least on par with the likes of most of the guys Foreman built his KO's against? Guys that had several KO losses a piece when in fact all three of those guys were top ranked heavyweights, had two losses between the three at the time and had never been knocked out before? Think about that.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by JAB5239
                    You can disagree all you want, but its still true. If it weren't if would mean size is the end all of punching power. We know for a fact that isn't true. Wlad has an excellent right, I'm not taking anything away from him. But he wears an opponent down, he rarely just takes them out. Its for that reason most find him boring.
                    When Wlad lands flush, he turns fighters lights out. I don't think that's in question really. You must be thinking of Vitali, who is very heavy handed himself but tends to throw arm shots and not put himself into positions to get countered, etc.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
                      When Wlad lands flush, he turns fighters lights out. I don't think that's in question really. You must be thinking of Vitali, who is very heavy handed himself but tends to throw arm shots and not put himself into positions to get countered, etc.
                      I've seen Wlad land the right flush many, many times and the results are more often than not exactly as I said...he wears opponents down. His left takes out more guys than his right. If I wrong you should be able to come up with a highlight reel video of Wlad putting fighters to sleep the way lets say Joe Louis did. I'll wait.

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