Is Andre Ward the world's second best fighter?

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  • nicamarvin
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    #21
    Originally posted by Roman Moreno
    JMM got dominated by Mayweather. You don't credit for being dominated.
    a P4P number 2 spot getting dominated by the GOAT in boxing is nothing to be ashamed of, heck he went and school pac in the art of boxing years latter..

    Marquez is P4P number 2 Ward is lucky to be at top 10

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    • Russian Crushin
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      #22
      Yea ummmmmm.......no

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      • Ringlife
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        #23
        He's well on his way of being just that. I give him a couple of years and the number 1 spot will be his. He keeps winning and fighting the best fighters out there. They will have no choice but to give him that number 1 spot.

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        • $tate of Mind
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          #24
          Originally posted by Dominicano Soy
          It is, but right now Ward is clearly the better fighter in my opinion. He's better defensively and in the pocket. Also there wasn't much clinching in the Kessler or Froch fight.
          I couldn't have said it better myself.

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          • Roman Moreno
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            #25
            Originally posted by nicamarvin
            a P4P number 2 spot getting dominated by the GOAT in boxing is nothing to be ashamed of, heck he went and school pac in the art of boxing years latter..

            Marquez is P4P number 2 Ward is lucky to be at top 10
            Well he didn't get dominated by the GOAT in boxing. He got dominated by Floyd.

            You don't get extra credit for being dominated. Why even brag about it?

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            • AntonTheMeh
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              #26
              lol. no. he's top 5. second best? the **** outta here. marquez pacquiao and martinez have something to say about that.
              Last edited by AntonTheMeh; 04-01-2012, 01:37 PM.

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              • F l i c k e r
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                #27
                Well, Ward can fight inside, outside, brawl, box, swarm. Yeah. He's only second to Mayweather at this moment.

                As great as Marquez is, his defense is severely lacking. Ward has great defense, and equally great offense. The guy is amazing.

                Pacquiao has no defense. And Martinez only fights one way.

                And you can include resume. There are not many, if any, boxers around right now that have fought the best their division has to offer. He didn't fight everyone but he fought all the best guys. All he needs is Bute and he basically owns that division.

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                • $tate of Mind
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                  Yea ummmmmm.......no
                  Umm.. why? State your case if you have one, otherwise you sound like a fool.

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                  • New England
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                    #29
                    considering his dub (marquez won that ****ing fight, i dont give a damn what the judges say,) against manny pacquiao in november i think that distinction goes to one juan manuel marquez

                    AKA Dinamita

                    AKA one bad hombre


                    mayweather
                    marquez
                    ward
                    pacquiao
                    martinez
                    donaire
                    wladimir
                    and then it drops off and i separate the rest.

                    lots of folks have these guys after that at this point (in no order
                    bradley
                    vitali (had him in the upper tier until his last fight. he's getting very old and showing it.)
                    bute
                    gamboa looked pretty damn good until he opted out of the rios fight and they put him on freeze.
                    froch

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                    • nicamarvin
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Roman Moreno
                      Well he didn't get dominated by the GOAT in boxing. He got dominated by Floyd.
                      Floyd is "The" GOAT of boxing you fool

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