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  • #71
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
    Does that mean we shouldn't see it? And we should see Floyd fight a dead Cotto instead? Or Pacquaio fight a terribly average fighter like Bradley instead? Stop lying to yourselves.
    I don't think Bradley is average, he is above average to me not elite for sure though. Cotto is not dead to me, of course not what he once was but not dead. PBF and Manny not what they used to be either IMO.

    I do feel PBF gonna beat the brakes off Cotto though. Bradley can take even more shine off of Manny and possibly win IMO.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
      How many times you gonna use that one?
      As long as it takes for your butthurt to heal.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by tredh View Post
        I don't feel the strategy has ever been tried by the fans in boxing. The difference with Ali-Frazier and Leonard vs Hearns is the fact that back then you only got big money for fights of that magnitude. Now PBF or Manny could fight the bum of the month at make $20Mill. Back then if it wasn't a real big or super fight you wasn't going to get paid huge bucks. It should be that way now.

        Truthfully that strategy works in other sports. In football when your stadium is empty the owner fires the GM and coaching staff to get the fans back. In basketball the samething happens. When fighters and promoters start to lose money cause fans aren't blindly following and paying money for BS fights on paper and in the ring then it will go back to how it used to be. Where fans routinely got good to great matchups.
        But "the fight" isn't the commodity the fighter is. And I don't see it being so different from boxing's heyday. What is different is there are not as many quality fighters period. Other opportunities and the fact boxing has lost its mainstream platform has diminished the quality from the pros down to the amatuers, at least from a US perspective.

        I mean SRL amde Hearns wait for 2 years. He was lucky he had a Duran to face during that time. Everyone gives SRL credit for fighting Duran but he did so mainly because the were marinating the Hearns fight. Not too different from now except Floyd and Manny's Durans are Cotto/Hatton/Mosley.

        I think people have a tendency to remember the good ole days a lil too good.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by turbotime View Post
          As long as it takes for your butthurt to heal.
          Do you realise how ****** you look by constantly avoiding the topic and bringing up something completely irrelevant just because you can't debate properly?

          Vintage turbotard.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
            Do you realise how ****** you look by constantly avoiding the topic and bringing up something completely irrelevant just because you can't debate properly?

            Vintage turbotard.
            You avoided what I said. I said whats the difference between Cotto being outmatched vs Floyd, vs Pac being outmatched by Floyd? They are both losing handily to Floyd no matter how you try and spin it.
            Last edited by turbotime; 03-29-2012, 03:24 PM.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
              But "the fight" isn't the commodity the fighter is. And I don't see it being so different from boxing's heyday. What is different is there are not as many quality fighters period. Other opportunities and the fact boxing has lost its mainstream platform has diminished the quality from the pros down to the amatuers, at least from a US perspective.

              I mean SRL amde Hearns wait for 2 years. He was lucky he had a Duran to face during that time. Everyone gives SRL credit for fighting Duran but he did so mainly because the were marinating the Hearns fight. Not too different from now except Floyd and Manny's Durans are Cotto/Hatton/Mosley.

              I think people have a tendency to remember the good ole days a lil too good.
              The great fighters coming together to make the "fight" is the commodity. You can't have one without the other.

              So if there are not that many quality fighters today why waste the fans time and money fighting fighters who are not on their level? That is the problem too many fighters and promoters are selling folks BS and telling them to like it and too many are liking it.

              I wouldn't mind waiting for PBF vs Manny is they were fighting challenges on a regular basis but they are not. They both even tell the fans that is what they are doing in not fighting the best challenge. They fight the best big named challenge for the most money. Not the best physical boxing challenge. Even though we all know Duran is greater. Martinez is the only Duran for PBF or Manny if they not gonna fight each other.

              Let's keep on going with this fake letting fights marinade to long bit. Then all we gonna get is a bunch of Salido vs. Lopez type of things happening. Thats not good for the fans. Gamboa vs Lopez should have been happened now that fight is worth nothing. PBF vs Manny is approaching that.

              PBF vs Manny is about to be on some B-Hop vs RJJ II type of shlt soon.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by turbotime View Post
                You avoided what I said. I said whats the difference between Cotto being outmatched vs Floyd, vs Pac being outmatched by Floyd? They are both losing handily to Floyd no matter how you try and spin it.
                There is no need to address what you said. You are on Floyds **** so hard, do you not see that? Its like saying Roy Jones vs James Toney was not a worth seeing because Roy outclassed him.

                I just dont really have time to carry you on this forum anymore, you're stuck in your ways and your tongue is stuck up Floyd's arse. No amount of me trying to reason with you is going to change that, I realise that now.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                  Does that mean we shouldn't see it? And we should see Floyd fight a dead Cotto instead? Or Pacquaio fight a terribly average fighter like Bradley instead? Stop lying to yourselves.
                  what am i lying to myself about?where did i say anything about not watching the fight? i don't even know what a dead cotto means and i actually want to see the pacquiao bradley fight but wuold i also like to see floyd spank pacquiao yea but what you were implying and still are is that there is no point in these upcoming fights because they are mismatches but even if floyd fights manny it will probably be a mismatch and your reply is going to be that the people want to see manny and floyd fight yea but at this point it's more something people want to see just to see it not because they feel manny is going to win

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                  • #79
                    Just when you think Floyd fantards couldn't get any worse, they think fighting this Cotto is the same level as fighting Pacquiao.

                    Im gonna make like Cotto and quit on this.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                      There is no need to address what you said. You are on Floyds **** so hard, do you not see that? Its like saying Roy Jones vs James Toney was not a worth seeing because Roy outclassed him.

                      I just dont really have time to carry you on this forum anymore, you're stuck in your ways and your tongue is stuck up Floyd's arse. No amount of me trying to reason with you is going to change that, I realise that now.
                      Again with your ********** fantasies, and providing nothing of substance. Wanting to see one mismatch and crying and biching over another is just hypocritical butthurt speaking on your behalf.

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