So do we all agree that Marquez won the last 2 pac fights!?!

[Fetta]

u didnt, but 10203837837344 other people did. i just dont get how someone look like ******* but won all rounds?? damm did u see the game last night? lakers beat the bulls 107-30 but damm the lakers hella struggle for all 4 quarters LOL!! so u're saying pac is only successful because of his speed?? i didnt know speed controls accuracy power?

Well roach ariza and PAC said they must keep his speed to maintain his power so yeah I guess it does.

[Mayabang]

No hate. I don't care about the PAC v Floyd crap so many pull and which you obviously do. I watch boxing and if Floyd looks bad I will say it too. Not to extreme of you I can tell but I will honest.

It is possible to cut off the ring when a guy is running around. So many places to go. It involves foot work and ring generalship. He looked like crap against a corpse and lost to JMM.

Funny how I didn't mention floyd ONCE and didn't talk about Manny vs Floyd ONCE, yet you bring it up and even stated 'you obviously do' when I didn't even mention it once. WTF??? You got issues, lol.

So tell me, how did 'Floyd' enter this convo? lol.

I'll say this again, nobody's perfect. If Manny can't cut off the ring as well as others, fine. But to judge his performance vs. Mosley and focus on that drawback and conveniently ignore the domination and the knockdown and straight up called that a 'crap' performance, then YES, I'd say you're hating.

oh and I'm still confused how and why you brought up 'Floyd' again? lol.

[PACsmash]

Well roach ariza and PAC said they must keep his speed to maintain his power so yeah I guess it does.

what good is having speed if u cant land? have no power? doesnt know when to get off first? u said take pac's speed away and he is crap. totally ignoring all the others. im not suprise though.

[Bermuda]

Marquez was a lightweight Pacman a welterweight end of story.

Well pac isn't really a huge welterweight though...people were even saying that pac is just a blown up lightweight himself...so its not like pac had a size advantage against Marquez like Floyd had...

[Fetta]

Funny how I didn't mention floyd ONCE and didn't talk about Manny vs Floyd ONCE, yet you bring it up and even stated 'you obviously do' when I didn't even mention it once. WTF??? You got issues, lol.

So tell me, how did 'Floyd' enter this convo? lol.

I'll say this again, nobody's perfect. If Manny can't cut off the ring as well as others, fine. But to judge his performance vs. Mosley and focus on that drawback and conveniently ignore the domination and the knockdown and straight up called that a 'crap' performance, then YES, I'd say you're hating.

oh and I'm still confused how and why you brought up 'Floyd' again? lol.

Ok confused you for the majority of writers on here where if you critical of one then you are a nut hugging fan of the other. Sorry. Going into meeting be back to debate this today or one day.

[Fetta]

what good is having speed if u cant land? have no power? doesnt know when to get off first? u said take pac's speed away and he is crap. totally ignoring all the others. im not suprise though.

JMM took away his speed and he couldn't cut off ring, had crap footwork, and couldn't box to save his life. He is a brawler and all the things you mentioned relate to speed. Take that away and he is crap.

[Bushbaby]

Well pac isn't really a huge welterweight though...people were even saying that pac is just a blown up lightweight himself...so its not like pac had a size advantage against Marquez like Floyd had...

Soooooooooooooo, you're trying to say that a lightweight fighting a welterweight at welterweight is not to the welterweight's advantage??

[PACsmash]

JMM took away his speed and he couldn't cut off ring, had crap footwork, and couldn't box to save his life. He is a brawler and all the things you mentioned relate to speed. Take that away and he is crap.

he is never a boxer to begin with so not sure what u were trying to say with that. and again speed doesnt mean jack if u cant use it to its full potential. take away floyd's speed and he is crap also. how u like that?

[PACsmash]

Soooooooooooooo, you're trying to say that a lightweight fighting a welterweight at welterweight is not to the welterweight's advantage??

not when both of them weight the same.. now if u were talking about 20+lbs different then yea full advantages right thurr.

[Fetta]

he is never a boxer to begin with so not sure what u were trying to say with that. and again speed doesnt mean jack if u cant use it to its full potential. take away floyd's speed and he is crap also. how u like that?

I even mentioned earlier I'm not involved in the whole Floyd v PAC thing to another poster and he asked why even bring it up. I said sorry confused him for most posters on here LIKE YOU. But if it makes you feel better yes I agree take Floyd speed and it hurts but he can box and has one of the best D maybe ever. His skill set is beyond PAC if you take away speed.

Going into meeting but to get back to thread JMM won the 3 rd fight no ifs ands or buts.