Did manny duck joan guzman?

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  • 4Corners
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    #21
    Originally posted by Roman Moreno
    Pac did duck Guzman at 130.

    LMAO at Pac ducking Cotto though.
    Yeah, how'd Pac duck Cotto is he already beat him???

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    • Reloaded
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      #22
      Originally posted by F l i c k e r
      Hey but if it's fair. Mosley didn't want to fight Floyd when Floyd wanted to fight him either.

      Floyd called him out and everything but Mosley never wanted to fight. But when Mosley has an unsuccessful campaign at 154 and Floyd is top of the world. Floyd should just automatically fight him?

      Not really fair.
      But Mosleys trainer didnt come out and say as a reason to not fight , Floyd your too good of a fighter and Floyd wasnt begging for a fight willing to go down to ridicules weights to get it , Mosley was selling his soul to get the Pac fight and Pac ducked him openly , you got to look at all the circumstances surrounding these things to see the real duck from a fan attack , take a look at the Cotto CW deal right now with Pac , its a blatant duck no two ways about it !
      Last edited by Reloaded; 03-28-2012, 05:23 PM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by 4CornersKid
        Yeah, how'd Pac duck Cotto is he already beat him???
        You dont get it , he beat Cotto with a handicap and refuses to fight him without that same handicap , its not a win if you need a handicap to win , thats not the idea of boxing .

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        • turbotime
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          #24
          I don't think Pac was ever offered a Guzman fight was he?

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            #25
            Originally posted by Reloaded
            You dont get it , he beat Cotto with a handicap and refuses to fight him without that same handicap , its not a win if you need a handicap to win , thats not the idea of boxing .
            Cotto weighed 146 against Clottey, the fight right before he fought Pac. I don't think the 1 lb was the reason Cotto got beaten by Pac. Just like Floyd weighing 146 wasn't the reason he schooled Marquez. If that's the case, than if Floyd fights Sergio at 154 lbs, Floyd shouldn't get any credit for that, because Sergio would be going down from 157/158 to 154.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Roman Moreno
              Pac did duck Guzman at 130.

              LMAO at Pac ducking Cotto though.
              How??? Didnt guzman just lose to barrios around the time pac beat barrera for number 1 wbc contender???

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                #27
                Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                How??? Didnt guzman just lose to barrios around the time pac beat barrera for number 1 wbc contender???
                I believe that some fights just don't happen but Guzman beat Beltran, Barrios, Davis, and Soto during 2005-2007, and Pac didn't end up fighting him. Guzman is undefeated.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by turbotime
                  I don't think Pac was ever offered a Guzman fight was he?
                  Or viceversa.

                  So the answer is no.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                    How??? Didnt guzman just lose to barrios around the time pac beat barrera for number 1 wbc contender???


                    guzman has never lost

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                    • Roman Moreno
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                      How??? Didnt guzman just lose to barrios around the time pac beat barrera for number 1 wbc contender???
                      You know Guzman has never lost right?

                      He has a draw that some felt he lost...But, that was after Pac ducked him.

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