Did manny duck joan guzman?

[4Corners]

Yeah ***** happens , just like your too good of a fighter Shane we will wait till your totally shot , or maybe I want Cotto first choice , ok but no CW , where are those 140 pounders ,,, if you really look at Pacs career he has ducked a lot of fighters and also manipulated a lot of fights .

Hey, I'm just trying to not sound bias.

I don find it funny that people say "Floyd didn't fight Lazcano, Tszyu, Margarito, or Williams" when Pac didn't fight Raheem, Guzman, Valero, Soto, Campbell, Casamayor, Berto, or Ortiz.

[Canelo Phresh]

Floyd fighting Hatton was actually a good fight, as good as Pac fighting Bradley no doubt.

its the same exact thing and its a good thing in boxing.

[4Corners]

its the same exact thing and its a good thing in boxing.

Exactly. Hatton was #8 P4P, prime and unbeaten, coming off wins over Tszyu, Urango, Collazo, and Castillo (past his prime).

Bradley is #8 P4P, prime and unbeaten, coming off wins over Witter, Vazquez, Holt, Alexander, Peterson, and Abregu.

Both are really good fights.

[Reloaded]

Hey, I'm just trying to not sound bias.

I don find it funny that people say "Floyd didn't fight Lazcano, Tszyu, Margarito, or Williams" when Pac didn't fight Raheem, Guzman, Valero, Soto, Campbell, Casamayor, Berto, or Ortiz.

Me neither , Cotto just now and Shane were factual ducks not biased at all just reminding people that Pac has blatantly ducked fights .

[Fetta]

If he didnt fight him then yes by BS logic Pac was a coward and ducked.

[Canelo Phresh]

Exactly. Hatton was #8 P4P, prime and unbeaten, coming off wins over Tszyu, Urango, Collazo, and Castillo (past his prime).

Bradley is #8 P4P, prime and unbeaten, coming off wins over Witter, Vazquez, Holt, Alexander, Peterson, and Abregu.

Both are really good fights.

its a good thing besides this is kinda like going back to the original weight classes before the jr and supers came into play.

[New England]

i leave it to my auuuhhhh promotor bob arum

lol i'm sorry i could not resist.


manny pacquiao isnt ducking anybody at that stage. he's doing what he's asked to do.



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[F l i c k e r]

Me neither , Cotto just now and Shane were factual ducks not biased at all just reminding people that Pac has blatantly ducked fights .

Hey but if it's fair. Mosley didn't want to fight Floyd when Floyd wanted to fight him either.

Floyd called him out and everything but Mosley never wanted to fight. But when Mosley has an unsuccessful campaign at 154 and Floyd is top of the world. Floyd should just automatically fight him?

Not really fair.

[4Corners]

Me neither , Cotto just now and Shane were factual ducks not biased at all just reminding people that Pac has blatantly ducked fights .

People like to point out that Floyd is just NOW fighting Cotto and that Pac did end up fighting Mosley anyway. There's a BIG difference though.

Going into fighting Floyd, Mosley had just KO'd Margarito and was the best WW aside from Floyd and Manny. Arum and Roach, along with an entire legion of fans, were saying "Floyd won't fight Mosley, he's too much of a risk after knocking Margarito out". Floyd fights him and it's called a cherry pick, get the f**k outta here. At that time, Roach and Manny were demanding a 142 lb CW to fight Mosley. And Shane could have gotten it earlier in 2005-2006 but his tooth hurt too bad.

Manny fought Mosley right after he'd been beaten down by Floyd and fought a draw that he should have lost with Sergio Mora, and everyone was saying "Mosley is DONE". Floyd is fighting Cotto after he lost to Manny, but Cotto has rebounded with wins over Foreman (a Top 10 ranked SWW to win a title) and Margarito ( a needed rematch) and he looked pretty good. The difference is, Cotto is past his prime-still good and can still fight. And it's at 154 lbs. Mosley was looked at as DONE and hadn't rebounded to do anything since losing to Floyd.

Big difference.

[Roman Moreno]

Pac did duck Guzman at 130.

LMAO at Pac ducking Cotto though.