Marquez the tune up king

[LeG00N]

All of pacquiaos fights post cotto have been tune ups

[turbotime]

So what? Just let the guy have a fight. The guy has paid his dues. Why does every fight need to be a fcking Superfight these days?

[Evil Abed]

Its been said. He's earned the right to fight a tune-up. Its not like he's ducking a mandatory or something.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Diaz was not *****. You're using revisionist history. When Marquez fought Diaz the first time, it was a really big and relevant fight. It was numbers 1 and 2 at LW. And like Kev said previously, Katsidis was actually on a roll when he fought Marquez having beaten Escebedo and Kevin Mitchell.

I'm not saying that Katsidis was an all world win, but it was a solid one. Diaz 1 was one of Marquez's best wins. The second Diaz fight was kind of weak, I agree, but still.....if that's the closest thing he had to a tuneup over a 3 year span that's a damn good run.

Diaz was always **** to me. How was he no1 challenger? He lost to Campbell. I dont think the fight was that relevant, it was just the lightweight champ taking on an OK contender, there were probably better fights to be made.

Katsidis got outboxed by Diaz ffs. I dont really care that he beat Mitchell and Escebedo (who?). Its just another OK fight.

I dont think there should be any excuse for the two bums.

[Roman Moreno]

So what? Just let the guy have a fight. The guy has paid his dues. Why does every fight need to be a fcking Superfight these days?

Because, people only fight 1 or 2 times a year these days. If you're an elite fighter and just are fighting once or twice a year. Then yes every F'ing fight should a super fight or close to it. You better be fighting the best possible opponent.

Saying that, JMM isn't avoiding anyone. Was actually in line to fight Peterson, before Lamont chose Khan. Maybe fights Gesta next which is meh...or maybe fights Rios

[Roman Moreno]

Diaz was always **** to me. How was he no1 challenger? He lost to Campbell. I dont think the fight was that relevant, it was just the lightweight champ taking on an OK contender, there were probably better fights to be made.

Katsidis got outboxed by Diaz ffs. I dont really care that he beat Mitchell and Escebedo (who?). Its just another OK fight.

I dont think there should be any excuse for the two bums.

At 135? Like?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

At 135? Like?

Well Campbell for starters since he beat Diaz...? And I don't even like/rate Campbell

[turbotime]

Because, people only fight 1 or 2 times a year these days. If you're an elite fighter and just are fighting once or twice a year. Then yes every F'ing fight should a super fight or close to it. You better be fighting the best possible opponent.

Saying that, JMM isn't avoiding anyone. Was actually in line to fight Peterson, before Lamont chose Khan. Maybe fights Gesta next which is meh...or maybe fights Rios

Yeah I'm pretty certain Marquez will fight twice more this year after this fight. Rios would be fcking awesome in the summer. I'm down with this fight as long as he gets a big one in there somewhere, not everyone is available all the time in this business. Rios in the Summer and Khan/Peterson in the Winter? I'm down

[savorduhflavor]

Diaz was always **** to me. How was he no1 challenger? He lost to Campbell. I dont think the fight was that relevant, it was just the lightweight champ taking on an OK contender, there were probably better fights to be made.
Katsidis got outboxed by Diaz ffs. I dont really care that he beat Mitchell and Escebedo (who?). Its just another OK fight.

I dont think there should be any excuse for the two bums.

Well, you're probably the only one that thinks that. The Diaz fight was Campbell's last at 135....he lost his belts on the scale against Funeka. So yes, Diaz was the number one contender and it was unequivocably the best fight to be made at LW, this is not debatable.

The Diaz win is a very, very good win.

The Katsidis win was a solid win, nothing great. But they weren't tuneups and it does nothing to disprove that from 2007 until he fought Likar Ramos, he didn't fight one guy that could be considered a tuneup. And there were some big, grueling fights in that stretch.

[-Spinal-]

And Diaz 2 while a bit of a soft touch, I agree, is far from a tuneup. If THAT'S the closest thing to a tuneup that he had from March 2008 to March 2011, that's a damn good run.

His tough run really started in 2007 if you think about it. He fought Rocky Juarez when he was still a fairly respectable top fighter. And you know the Barrera fight was very close, Barrera was a top fighter, one of the best FW's at the time. Barrera had racked up some pretty good wins, including a great win in 2004 against Morales before Morales even beat Pacquiao. Basically from 2004 up to Marquez in 2007, MAB hadn't lost a fight, Marquez stopped that streak. So really, his tough run started in 2007 to present. People just wanna say that he's feeding off Pacquiao, but the guy has some solid and great wins in his resume starting from 07. And it would have been since 2006, if he hadn't been clearly robbed against Chris John. That's a loooooong run. He doesn't get enough credit, it's unfair to just say he's living off of Pacquiaoo's name.

Marquez has stopped a lot of streaks, small streaks and long streaks, from top fighters to solid fighters. And really Pacquiao's streak of 15 straight wins shouldn't even exist, and we all know why.