Marquez the tune up king

[Cleto_Reyes]

stop hating on a legend...

[ElMeroChingon]

All he does is fight tune ups and pacquiao. How many tune ups does this guy need? He fought that Ramos guy, then pac, now this european bum, then hes fighting Gesta after..... like come on, i thought this guy was a warrior

he won 8-9 rounds against Pacquiao, practically a JMM highligh reel for 12 rounds., if he would've gotten the decision, then all this wouldn't need to happen.

[Money_May]

Why do I get the feeling that whatever happens JMM will not get the props he deserves. Feel sorry for the guy he beat PAC in the 3rd fight (not the first 2 though) but all people will remember is PAC winning unfortunately the losers never get remembered regardless of what ***** went down with bob arum and this is business

[-Spinal-]

You must be kidding. Obviously everyone wants to fight Floyd and Pacquiao, but from Pacquiao 2 to Katsidis, Marquez didn't take one tuneup and fought really legit competition.

Juan Diaz at the time was a really legit fight, it was not merely an "ok" fight. Katsidis was an OK fight but was far from a tuneup. That's one impressive streak of opponents with no tuneup. Now he fights a tuneup before Pac and a tune up before Rios(likely) and people are calling him a tune up king? It's a joke.

There's more to it than that. For the Casamayor fight, Marquez was coming up from 130 and Casamayor was The Ring LW champion, who has never been knocked out. Marquez knocked him out to become the LW Ring champion. Then Juan Diaz was The Ring #1 ranked LW, who has also never been knocked out, Marquez knocks him out too in a FOTY. Floyd Mayweather is Floyd Mayweather, not much to really say about that. The Diaz rematch IMO was pointless, just a soft touch for Marquez, Diaz was coming two consecutive poor performances against Paulie Malignaggi. Katsidis was a tough win, Marquez is a counterpuncher who can get hit. Katsidis put him on his ass. Katsidis was no slouch at the time, he was just coming off probably the biggest win of his career, a TKO against undefeated Kevin Mitchell, and before that fight Katsidis had beaten the very tough Vicente Escobedo and a past prime Jesus Chavez. So he was on a little role, and Marquez knocked him out. And finally Pacquiao #1 WW and "#1 P4P", a fight which I thought Marquez had won but got robbed.

Likar Ramos and Fedchenko are soft touches, but the guy is 38 years old and had some very tough fights from 2007 to present.

[-DSG-]

marquez can do what he wants he is a legend

[savorduhflavor]

There's more to it than that. For the Casamayor fight, Marquez was coming up from 130 and Casamayor was The Ring LW champion, who has never been knocked out. Marquez knocked him out to become the LW Ring champion. Then Juan Diaz was The Ring #1 ranked LW, who has also never been knocked out, Marquez knocks him out too in a FOTY. Floyd Mayweather is Floyd Mayweather, not much to really say about that. The Diaz rematch IMO was pointless, just a soft touch for Marquez, Diaz was coming two consecutive poor performances against Paulie Malignaggi. Katsidis was a tough win, Marquez is a counterpuncher who can get hit. Katsidis put him on his ass. Katsidis was no slouch at the time, he was just coming off probably the biggest win of his career, a TKO against undefeated Kevin Mitchell, and before that fight Katsidis had beaten the very tough Vicente Escobedo and a past prime Jesus Chavez. So he was on a little role, and Marquez knocked him out. And finally Pacquiao #1 WW and "#1 P4P", a fight which I thought Marquez had won but got robbed.

Likar Ramos and Fedchenko are soft touches, but the guy is 38 years old and had some very tough fights from 2007 to present.

And Diaz 2 while a bit of a soft touch, I agree, is far from a tuneup. If THAT'S the closest thing to a tuneup that he had from March 2008 to March 2011, that's a damn good run.

[TOBYLEE1]

All he does is fight tune ups and pacquiao. How many tune ups does this guy need? He fought that Ramos guy, then pac, now this european bum, then hes fighting Gesta after..... like come on, i thought this guy was a warrior

Marquez counter puncher style relies heavily on timing. He is the type of fighter that has to keep busy to keep sharp. It can be worst, he could not be fighting at all.

He is a guy that don't need a massive purse in this stage of his career to fight.

That says a lot about this fighter

[Dirk Diggler UK]

You must be kidding. Obviously everyone wants to fight Floyd and Pacquiao, but from Pacquiao 2 to Katsidis, Marquez didn't take one tuneup and fought really legit competition.

Juan Diaz at the time was a really legit fight, it was not merely an "ok" fight. Katsidis was an OK fight but was far from a tuneup. That's one impressive streak of opponents with no tuneup. Now he fights a tuneup before Pac and a tune up before Rios(likely) and people are calling him a tune up king? It's a joke.

Juan Diaz is ****, lets be real. He'd already been exposed by Nate Campbell. And Katsidis had already been beaten by Diaz! The Diaz rematch was a joke too.

Im not saying he's the tune-up king but hes fought two complete bums either side of Pacquiao. Most top fighters would get criticised for it.

[Neglect]

I thought maidana was a warrior till he got clowned against devon ****ing devon!! lmao

He got clinched to a loss. Blame the ref.

[savorduhflavor]

Juan Diaz is ****, lets be real. He'd already been exposed by Nate Campbell. And Katsidis had already been beaten by Diaz! The Diaz rematch was a joke too.

Im not saying he's the tune-up king but hes fought two complete bums either side of Pacquiao. Most top fighters would get criticised for it.

Diaz was not *****. You're using revisionist history. When Marquez fought Diaz the first time, it was a really big and relevant fight. It was numbers 1 and 2 at LW. And like Kev said previously, Katsidis was actually on a roll when he fought Marquez having beaten Escebedo and Kevin Mitchell.

I'm not saying that Katsidis was an all world win, but it was a solid one. Diaz 1 was one of Marquez's best wins. The second Diaz fight was kind of weak, I agree, but still.....if that's the closest thing he had to a tuneup over a 3 year span that's a damn good run.