Pirog-Geale; Trout-Dzinziruk HBO Doubleheader In Works

[DoktorSleepless]

HBO owes Dzinzurnik a date contractually.

Ya know, I really think Hershman's like fcuk it, I'm gonna make a card with some Europeans and try and groom one of them into a Martinez or Chavez opponent and one of them into a Canelo opponent.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, but if nobody watches the card, what exactly will it accomplish? If he wanted to groom them, they should be place in undercards of other popular fighters. Or put them against other known fighters. Pirog vs Lee or Quillin is equally as good as Pirog vs Geale except the other two are more well known. Or even Geale vs Lee or Quillin. Those matchups make way more sense than Pirog vs Geale.

[ny123]

Nobody is complaining about the fights because for the most part we are all hardcore fans who will enjoy this card. I think people are just curious as to why HBO would televise this when its a fact that all of the fighters mentioned are virtually unknown to casual fans in the states who probably make up a large portion of HBO's audience.

[johnny g]

Anywhere in the West is a bad idea. Pirog-Geale/Trout-Dzinziruk wouldn't sell any tickets in TX, NM, CO, AZ, NV, or CA. They need to do it where there's a really large Eastern European population. Somewhere on the East Coast, or even Chicago would be better in my opinion.

I agree with these locations.

I hope they make this happen there's enough diehards to appreciate both of these fights, they're both solid matchups.
I can remember watching Showtime fights when I first got it a few years ago and thinking to myself who are these guys, who cares it was a good scrap. Just like the UFC some of these guys come out of nowhere and put on a good show.
Bottom line, I think it should happen.

[Russian Crushin]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, but if nobody watches the card, what exactly will it accomplish? If he wanted to groom them, they should be place in undercards of other popular fighters. Or put them against other known fighters. Pirog vs Lee or Quillin is equally as good as Pirog vs Geale except the other two are more well known. Or even Geale vs Lee or Quillin. Those matchups make way more sense than Pirog vs Geale.

Bullshiiit

Honestly i question you being a boxing fan. All you want is "big name fights". When an opportunity presents itself when we actually have 2 top MWs fighting eachother for a unification, all you want is bigger names like Lee and Quillin

Lee and Quillin

[savorduhflavor]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, but if nobody watches the card, what exactly will it accomplish? If he wanted to groom them, they should be place in undercards of other popular fighters. Or put them against other known fighters. Pirog vs Lee or Quillin is equally as good as Pirog vs Geale except the other two are more well known. Or even Geale vs Lee or Quillin. Those matchups make way more sense than Pirog vs Geale.

Because people will watch them. And if they're good fights people will watch replays through word of mouth.

It's obviously gonna do poor live ratings but if 400,000 people watch it, that's probably 300,000 more people that would now know who they are than there was before the card.

[DoktorSleepless]

Bullshiiit

Honestly i question you being a boxing fan. All you want is "big name fights". When an opportunity presents itself when we actually have 2 top MWs fighting eachother for a unification, all you want is bigger names like Lee and Quillin

Lee and Quillin

Who gives a **** that it's a unification? Unification are only interesting when's there no clear champion. Pirog and Geale are fighting for a meaningless paper unification. As far as I'm concerned, Geale, Pirog, Lee, and Quillin are all on equal standing. I said this before. I wouldn't favor any of those four guys by any significant margin if they fought each other. They would all make good fights. And since when do you give a fuck about Geale? Do you seriously think Geale is somehow leagues ahead of Lee and Quillin in skill and talent? If you think belts means better fights, I'll have to question you being a boxing fan.

[Russian Crushin]

Who gives a **** that it's a unification? Unification are only interesting when's there no clear champion. Pirog and Geale are fighting for a meaningless paper unification. As far as I'm concerned, Geale, Pirog, Lee, and Quillin are all on equal standing. And since when do you give a fuck about Geale? Do you seriously think Geale is significantly better than Lee and Quillin?

You have to be crazy if you think putting in 2 massive draws in contenders lee and quillin is better then pirog-gale

[Light_Speed]

New York?

Yup they should definitely make it happen in NYC, the eastern euro fans will show up.

[Heru]

I am doubting this will ever happen. Pirog-Geale as an HBO main event? Two basically unknown guys....?

Dan Rafael is one of the most reliable sources in boxing so I don't doubt much the validity of it being "in works"; and with Ken Hershman at the helm of HBO, it isn't unreasonable to think this doubleheader fight could be made.

Does anyone in the United States other than posters on boxing scene know any of these guys? I mean i like the fights and will watch but I can imagine now inviting my boys over for the fights and having them tell me who the **** are these guys.

I understand where you're coming from, but this is what should happen when good unknown fighters can't get a fight against known opponents; just match them against each other and hope for the best.

The other reasons are 1) This card would be cheaper than some one-fight HBO cards and 2) it'd be taking place when HBO doesn't have high expectations for ratings (for some reason they've tried to avoid the Olympics in the past).

They'll definitely be replaying the Jacobs KO in advance... I wouldn't watch the lead up to the fight if I were him.

[perfect jet]

Washington is the likely venue apparently.