Has Manny improved?

[Roman Moreno]

Manny is not on the decline.

Manny Pacquiao is the same boxer who fought Barrera and Morales.

He's no different. Its just that he's run out of losers to target

Does this imply that Barrera and Molina are losers?

[turbotime]

Does this imply that Barrera and Molina are losers?

Think it states more to the fact that he hasn't really improved since those fights, when the whole "Improved" myths began.

[KILLA RIGHT]

Roach is a great match maker that is all

[littlemac]

Has Manny improved? No! Just his competition as of late has improved which has exposed him as the same old one handed, one dimensional , low ring IQ with no adaptability fighter his always been. Idiots actually believe Manny is some how on the decline because he wasn't able to destroy quality opposition like he did against those weight drain flat footed, past primed fighter with zero skill he fought with.

[Roman Moreno]

Think it states more to the fact that he hasn't really improved since those fights, when the whole "Improved" myths began.

I don't know he said "anymore" which implies they were

Anyways, he is less reckless now. He sometimes tries to counter more. Which IMO hurts him. What made him special was relentless, threw caution to the wind and just go for it.

He along with Kirkland their best attribute is going into the ring not giving a fuck.

[brick wall]

the pacquiao of 2008 was already a great fighter...whether if he improved or not doesn't really mean negative. having 3 close fights with jmm is not negative either.

now if the purpose of this thread is to try to depict floyd as a better fighter than pac (floyd fanatics does that all the time like their lives depend on it) then that's fine...it's just opinion and doesn't mean *****. the fight still needs to happen to prove who really is the better fighter. unfortunately, it looks like the fight is not happening unless pac agrees to a fixed purse.

[ADP02]

Here is what happened:

Roach's game plan was wrong!

Roach tried to get Manny to change and be more of a boxer ..... in essence, Manny had to try and out box a boxer (Marquez). Not an easy task. Check out some of the pre-fight tapes ... you will hear Roach say "Manny will need to fight smarter" .... meaning, be patient and box more and counter Marquez.

Being that this was "Manny's division" and being that Manny was younger, Manny had to be more Manny than ever .... Manny had to pressure Marquez from the get go and make it a brawl.

While it may not have worked 100% and Manny would get countered more often, it would make Marquez work a lot harder, make Marquez more vulnerable as Marquez would be left Open more often ..... and the older Marquez would tire out in the later rounds of a 144lbs fight.

Max Kellerman said something similar last Saturday during the Molina vs Kirkland fight. Kirkland usually attacks from the get go but he was trying to outbox a boxer .... Kellerman basically said what I stated above

[p4p-champ]

Roach may have been able to tweak Manny's physical abilities, but he can never fight for him. Manny has always lacked lacked whats between his ears, he hasn't changed. Good match making by Top Rank.

[Carpe Diem]

WTF Larry. I thought this was a new video.

[John Barron]

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