Molina-Kirkland Compuclinch, 118

[ИATAS]

The blame goes on the ref since he allowed it.

Also kirkland clearly doesn't know how to deal with it either, so he is to blame as well. I'd like to see him be more aggressive, maybe a cotto vs clottey toss here and there,and basic things like throw an uppercut when he lunged in to clinch like Wolfe told him.

But he did come on strong late, scored a knock down and very well may have knocked him out so he never gave up which is encouraging.

[Roman Moreno]

The blame goes on the ref since he allowed it.

Also kirkland clearly doesn't know how to deal with it either, so he is to blame as well. I'd like to see him be more aggressive, maybe a cotto vs clottey toss here and there,and basic things like throw an uppercut when he lunged in to clinch like Wolfe told him.

But he did come on strong late, scored a knock down and very well may have knocked him out so he never gave up which is encouraging.

This right here.

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[Neglect]

and Kirkland ALLOWED IT!

at what point do you change things up and come up with a way to get this guy off of you...Ricky Hatton basically WRESTLED MAYWEATHER for 5-7 Rounds but he figured out a way to back Hatton up and make him reluctant to clinch and he did it with BODY SHOTS! Kirkland wasn't pushing back or anything and he kept bringing his hands down

no question the Clinches was excessive...BUT...Fighters can't just sit back and wait for the Ref to do something...at some point you have to take matters into your own hands but instead Kirkland just waited for the Ref to break them and would completely put his guard down

Now I see why Mayweather keep that damn Forearm/Elbow Up, so when people go for a clinch against him they walk right into a damn Elbow/Forearm...a lot fighters today are just not that...CLEVER! And I also don't blame Dawson for SLAMMING B-Hop now because B-Hop jumped on his back and was trying to clinch him

I don't just blame Ward, B-Hop, Molina and Alexander and guys like that, I think the Lack of Fundamentals overall in boxing might be a issue, guys just know how to throw punches but NOTHING ELSE!

Horrible comparison. Hatton was the aggressor and Mayweather ran a lot.

[TheMexHurricane]

Horrible comparison. Hatton was the aggressor and Mayweather ran a lot.

Mayweather is gonna clinch Cotto like a mofo in their upcoming fight. He has to because Cotto is too strong, too durable, too hard hitting for him. I love Mayweather but I gotta root for My Latino brother and voice my opinion to give him the best chance possible to win.


Hugging is bad for boxing. Boxing is the world's toughest sport but ironically hugging is more important than toughness. WTF?!?

[Queen_Leia]

It's called the sweet science, there are multiple ways a guy can fight, and multiple ways to counter each style.

[Ericd314]

Mayweather is gonna clinch Cotto like a mofo in their upcoming fight. He has to because Cotto is too strong, too durable, too hard hitting for him. I love Mayweather but I gotta root for My Latino brother and voice my opinion to give him the best chance possible to win.


Hugging is bad for boxing. Boxing is the world's toughest sport but ironically hugging is more important than toughness. WTF?!?

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voicing your opinion for cotto will not help him one bit, mayweather is gonna tax that @$$ all night......its the same thing with mayweather, everyone thinks the opponent has a chance against floyd and then by the 4-6 rounds all hope goes down the drain, it will be no different for cotto, he will be beat like a drum....remember this thread!

[thuggery]

[COLOR="Red"][SIZE="4"] Mayweather is gonna clinch Cotto like a mofo in their upcoming fight. :

mayweather, clinching?

have you seen his fights?

[4Corners]

They should seriously have a COMPUCLINCH counter, and if you clinch more than 10 times in a round, that's an automatic point deduction. And if you go above 10 clinches more than 3 rounds in a fight, automatic DQ. I seriously would support that.

But, that'd never happen. I don't mind holding and clinching but when it's THAT excessive, it's ridiculous. Also, a big problem I had with Molina holding was that he would NEVER punch while in the clinch or try to work the body or fight on the inside. The only time he tried to actually do any fighting while they were clinched was when he had Kirkland's arm pinned under his left armpit and he'd hit him with the right. Can't knock Molina too bad though, the ref never warned him or anything, oh well. I hope they rematch, and Kirkland should do exactly what he did in the 10th. Throw him off you when he tries that s**t and kick his a$$.

Of the 10 rounds that were fought, Moloina won 7 of them. The only rounds I could give Kirkland were the 5th, 6th, and the 10th.

[915angel]

They should seriously have a COMPUCLINCH counter, and if you clinch more than 10 times in a round, that's an automatic point deduction. And if you go above 10 clinches more than 3 rounds in a fight, automatic DQ. I seriously would support that.

But, that'd never happen. I don't mind holding and clinching but when it's THAT excessive, it's ridiculous. Also, a big problem I had with Molina holding was that he would NEVER punch while in the clinch or try to work the body or fight on the inside. The only time he tried to actually do any fighting while they were clinched was when he had Kirkland's arm pinned under his left armpit and he'd hit him with the right. Can't knock Molina too bad though, the ref never warned him or anything, oh well. I hope they rematch, and Kirkland should do exactly what he did in the 10th. Throw him off you when he tries that s**t and kick his a$$.

Of the 10 rounds that were fought, Moloina won 7 of them. The only rounds I could give Kirkland were the 5th, 6th, and the 10th.

after the kd how would you have seen the fight playin out?? kirk was just comin out,,molina outclassed him throughout the fight but did you see molinas mouth he was bleeding,,, i think the next 2 rounds would have been interesting,, if it continued 1 more round i think kirk could have POSSIBLY taken him out!,,, molina looked gassed they both did but kirk got KO power,,

[4Corners]

after the kd how would you have seen the fight playin out?? kirk was just comin out,,molina outclassed him throughout the fight but did you see molinas mouth he was bleeding,,, i think the next 2 rounds would have been interesting,, if it continued 1 more round i think kirk could have POSSIBLY taken him out!,,, molina looked gassed they both did but kirk got KO power,,

Had Molina not held onto Kirkland 16 times in the 10th, he could have stopped him there I think. He was hurt the first 1:30-2:00 of that round big time and would just lay on Kirkland and grab him, and than tried to grab the ropes while laying on him. What Kirkland did around 2:20 in that round, when Molina tried to hold him again and then he pushed Molina off of him and kicked his a$$, he should have done that the whole fight.

Kirkland very well may have stopped him, but we'll never know. Molina would have had a full minute to rest and probably would have tripled the number of clinches and holding the final two rounds. A big difference is that Kirkland's stmina was still great in the 10th, where as Molina's wasn't quite up there. I had Molina up 88-83 going into the 10 rounds, 7-2 in rounds. So, after the KD in the 10th, Kirkland would have been down 96-93 with two rounds to go. He would have to score KD's to win or knock him out on my card. Who knows???

In rounds 5 and 6, Kirkland won those and opened up more. Than, he stopped from rounds 7-9 basically, don't know why.

If they rematch, James just needs to do what he did in the 10th.