Molina Ward Hopkins... What's the difference???

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  • BoxingGenius27
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    #21
    TS STFU.

    Molina is on a whole nother level when it comes to holding.

    I don't even like Hopkins, but comparing him to Molina is str8 ******.

    It's more ****** than comparing to Ward. Take your ass to sleep

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    • noekin3
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      #22
      "slickness" of course, what else........SMH

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        #23
        I'm not a fan of any of those 3 but Molina took clinching to a whole new level. I don't remember a fight with so much clinching from one side. What sucks is I never remember him fighting like that.

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        • bojangles1987
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          #24
          Originally posted by Roman Moreno
          I was just about to make this thread. I don't get it...

          Hopkins does it, it's craftiness.

          Ward does it, it's supreme skill.

          Molina does it, it's dirty, fuck him, good robbery, the ref blah blah.

          F'ing ****riding fans.

          I for one have no problem with that style.

          But, really Hopkins nor Ward fans should complain.

          The only difference between the 3 is the ethnicity.
          A LOT of Kirkland fans were getting their opinions of the guy shattered, so this gives them a way to never give Molina credit ever for showing how average Kirkland is.

          Finding the style pleasing isn't the f***ing point. If a guy is using it and winning, and gets screwed, he was still screwed over even if you didn't enjoy watching it. Same reason everyone says John Ruiz is one of the worst titleholders ever, even though he beat lots of guys.

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          • daggum
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            #25
            molina held for 2 minutes and 30 seconds of each round then threw punches the last 30 seconds. hopkins and ward hold too much but at least they throw punches in the clinch.

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            • bojangles1987
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              #26
              Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
              TS STFU.

              Molina is on a whole nother level when it comes to holding.

              I don't even like Hopkins, but comparing him to Molina is str8 ******.

              It's more ****** than comparing to Ward. Take your ass to sleep
              Can't WAIT until you pick Kirkland to beat one of the better fighters at 154 again, so I can laugh some more. Hopefully after whatever fight that is Kirkland won't be the recipient of a gift and you can face reality.

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              • Roman Moreno
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                #27
                Lol at Molina took it to a new level.

                F'ing Johnny Come lately fans, I tell you.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  molina held for 2 minutes and 30 seconds of each round then threw punches the last 30 seconds. hopkins and ward hold too much but at least they throw punches in the clinch.
                  But did Molina hold as much as Hopkins did against Zaghe?

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                  • FeFist
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                    #29
                    My problem wasn't with Monila ( well it kinda was) it was with the referee. When Hopkins and Ward clinch their opponents the ref pulls them apart, he doesn't allow it to take up half of the round.

                    As the fight turned out, the ref allowed the clinching which left Kirkland two choices, resist the clinch ( which would tire him out) or relax and wait for the referee to break them apart- as the referee didn't stop the clinch doing this would result in him getting punched when Monila decided to come out the clinch.

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                    • BoxingGenius27
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by daggum
                      molina held for 2 minutes and 30 seconds of each round then threw punches the last 30 seconds. hopkins and ward hold too much but at least they throw punches in the clinch.
                      Exactly.

                      There's only 3:00 in a round and Molina was holding for 20 seconds at a time. He'll throw a few punches, then as soon as Kirk landed, he'll hold for another 20 seconds.

                      Next thing I know, I'll look up at the clock and the whole round is over.

                      What was Kirk suppose to do, go WWE on him and tackle him on the apron?

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