Comments Thread For: Lederman: Mayweather Should Fight Martinez, at MSG

[twosweethooks]

Martinez doenst have great boxing skills or defense. Mayweather would outbox this dude with no problems.

OH WOW !

Then we won't see a problem with JR signing up to fight Sergio especially after Sergio has called out the great JR , right ?

Sergio and JR in the fall !

[The Big Dunn]

NO.

First mang , he was KO'd as a teenager in his early boxing career in devastating fashion, starving to death but he came back, thats heart !

He faced champions in 7 divisions and beat them.

He fought the great Morales and lost but came back to defeat him twice.

He has fought ALL COMERS !!!!!! big men , bigger than he

Name one mang he has not fought !

NOW Mang

you name "THE" fighter that Jr has fought in the past 8 years that defines his status !

NOT 5, not 4 not 3 not 2 but just name "ONE".

it seems to me mang that JR has only fought OLD , really OLD, SLOW, little and very LITTLE fighters but has DUCKED anyone who is a threat.

SO go ahead and name the fighter that JR has fought in the past 8 years that defines his status as #1 p4p in the WORLD mang !!!

A lot of fighters have survived tough circumstances so they would have heart too right?

I can name plenty of people he hasn't fought, but I don't have the mentality that not fighting a guy (Guzman, Raheem, floyd) is ducking. SO he hasn't fought all comers has he?

Jr I assume is floyd. He doesn't have to fight someone 3 times because he wins convincingly the 1st time, except for Castillo which he won more convincingly the 2nd time. So why would we penalize floyd's greatness?

As for Old guys, when floyd challenged them when they were prime they said no, too much risk, not enough reward because floyd was a no name. Then when they could get paid, they signed up for their beating. Again, how doews one punish floyd for that?

Floyd was the #1 p4p fighter before 2004 so why do we only go back 8 years?

Its ok man I get it. You want floyd to prove himself to people like you who aren't ever going to give him credit.

[valentino23]

To me. Manny Pacquiao is the most hyped up fighter. Martinez would knock Pac's head off and that's why Pac is staying away from 154/150 all together. I see the skill in Sergio Martinez and he is not to be slept on. He's been performing good before the Williams and Pavlik fights but people who just got into the sport of boxing only know him mostly from Williams fighting him. You think Floyd would school Segio? Maybe so but in the same breath, Sergio has a chance to put Mayweather on his ass.

Basically what I said!

[sirron000]

Macklin got knocked down twice and his corner stopped the fight. Sergio is KO's bigger dudes and getting stronger late in the fight and systematically breaking fighters down. I am a fan of Floyd and even I know that he is not going to beat Sergio Martinez easy. I give Martinez a good shot at beating Floyd at 154. Martinez is good under pressure and adversity.

Against C+ competition.

[twosweethooks]

A lot of fighters have survived tough circumstances so they would have heart too right?

I can name plenty of people he hasn't fought, but I don't have the mentality that not fighting a guy (Guzman, Raheem, floyd) is ducking. SO he hasn't fought all comers has he?

Jr I assume is floyd. He doesn't have to fight someone 3 times because he wins convincingly the 1st time, except for Castillo which he won more convincingly the 2nd time. So why would we penalize floyd's greatness?

As for Old guys, when floyd challenged them when they were prime they said no, too much risk, not enough reward because floyd was a no name. Then when they could get paid, they signed up for their beating. Again, how doews one punish floyd for that?

Floyd was the #1 p4p fighter before 2004 so why do we only go back 8 years?

Its ok man I get it. You want floyd to prove himself to people like you who aren't ever going to give him credit.

WOW !!

Are we in the house of spin ?

Do we need to compare the greatness of the fighters Pac fought as opposed to the fighters JR has fought ?

I say Pac fought tougher and greater fighters.

Barrera , Morales is greater than any that JR fought, without a doubt JR lost that first Castillo fight and Castillo was good but not near close to Barrera and Morales. NO WAY.

You evade the question.

Again , in other words

WHO is the fighter that has defined Floyd Mayweather JR in the past 8 years that gives him
authority
clout
prestige
power
to claim the throne as the BEST ?

I do realize that one fighter can't fight them all but that doesn't mean that a fighter has intentionally ducked them as well like Gusman.

I can't name one elite prime WelterWeight that Pac has not fought and is ducking.

Without a doubt Jr has admitted to ducking Pac, indirectly by stating on the Costas show, that his main concern is his health and used Pac s name in the same sentence plus that he cares only for his family, leaving out the fans.

He also stated when he fought the wee little JMM that he couldn't knock out that he fought him based on a challenge and that he never turns down a challenge.

I say he needs to shut up and go hide in jail or put up and fight the one dimensional little guy that stands no chance to win and fight Sergio a man who will take him to the late rounds put his @$$ in the trenches and show who is da mang !!!!

I say JR is scared to go there.

I say JR will QUIT unless he can't get up from the Knock downs from Sergio and Pac

All of the hoopla from Jr over the past several years is not about boxing its about keeping that 0

I wish somebody would prove me wrong.

The only way is for JR to get in the ring and whup both Pac and Sergio

after all mang,

They are EASY FIGHTS , EASY money so WHY NOT ?

name the fighter who has defined the career of JR, don't make me laugh now, hahahah,,,,

[valentino23]

NO.

First mang , he was KO'd as a teenager in his early boxing career in devastating fashion, starving to death but he came back, thats heart !

He faced champions in 7 divisions and beat them.

He fought the great Morales and lost but came back to defeat him twice.

He has fought ALL COMERS !!!!!! big men , bigger than he

Name one mang he has not fought !

NOW Mang

you name "THE" fighter that Jr has fought in the past 8 years that defines his status !

NOT 5, not 4 not 3 not 2 but just name "ONE".

it seems to me mang that JR has only fought OLD , really OLD, SLOW, little and very LITTLE fighters but has DUCKED anyone who is a threat.

SO go ahead and name the fighter that JR has fought in the past 8 years that defines his status as #1 p4p in the WORLD mang !!!

Where do I start?
Corales (undefeated)
Gatti (champion)
Hatton (undefeated & champion)
Yung Zab (champion)
Oscar (healthy at 154) unlike pac
Marquez (champion) them couple of lbs wouldnt have mattered
Baldamir (champion)

Its not like he was fighting #2 & 3 contenders! These were champions some undefeated, so stop hating and give credit when credits due!

[twosweethooks]

Where do I start?
Corales (undefeated)
Gatti (champion)
Hatton (undefeated & champion)
Yung Zab (champion)
Oscar (healthy at 154) unlike pac
Marquez (champion) them couple of lbs wouldnt have mattered
Baldamir (champion)

Its not like he was fighting #2 & 3 contenders! These were champions some undefeated, so stop hating and give credit when credits due!

Corales was defeated by Castillo and was in the worst shape mentally and physically,,,,WON'T work mang

Gatti ??? Gatti had more balls than JR will ever have but he was NOT champion when JR fought him, he was a washed up fighter, WON't WORK !

Hatton was small, a blown up proven can't fight at WW fighter,,,won't work mang

Zab was a badly defeated leftover from Tz and all ZAB does is accentuate what his heart dictates and that is survive or quit,,, won't work

ODH,,,,old and washed up , couldn't pull the trigger,,,,and you would think he would have slaughtered ODH but it was the sickest big fight in the history of boxing. I paid good money to watch that. BS,,,won't work mang

I am totally supprized that you are trying to pull this off using JMM. JMM is the wee little mang , and you using him to define JR ??????? Wow,,,,just won't work thats like Ali claiming Brian London as his defining fight.

and

Balto ????????? W O W ! LMAO !!!!!!

Now the truth is , and the answer to the Question is :

JR does not have a defining fight !

JR is a product of HYPE with skills and no balls

I can't wait for somebody to prove me wrong, I definitely desire the taste of eating crow.

Whoever you named Pac did greater than JR , easy.

Remember ODH , he chose to come in at 147,,,,,QUIT on his stool

Remember Hatton, KO'd in two

sad boxing has come to this.

[jbpanama]

OH WOW !

Then we won't see a problem with JR signing up to fight Sergio especially after Sergio has called out the great JR , right ?

Sergio and JR in the fall !

FRAUD fight Sergio? not likley, When was the last time El BOY, fought someone that wasen't Undersized or OVER the Hill, and down the road?

[Carpe Diem]

Martinez doenst have great boxing skills or defense. Mayweather would outbox this dude with no problems.

When has Floyd ever outboxed a southpaw? He outfought and walked them down. Do you think he'd be able to walking down Martinez?

[jbpanama]

Where do I start?
Corales (undefeated)
Gatti (champion)
Hatton (undefeated & champion)
Yung Zab (champion)
Oscar (healthy at 154) unlike pac
Marquez (champion) them couple of lbs wouldnt have mattered
Baldamir (champion)

Its not like he was fighting #2 & 3 contenders! These were champions some undefeated, so stop hating and give credit when credits due!

FRAUD will continue to PUNK OUT....Sergio don't meet FRAUDS standards....
Much too TOUGH , and BOY, must protect thr precious "0"