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  • JAB5239
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    #51
    If he's willing to fight Chavez he should be should be willing to fight Ward or Bute who are no bigger.
    Last edited by JAB5239; 03-18-2012, 06:25 PM.

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    • GodInFleshSuit
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      #52
      Originally posted by JAB5239
      If he's willing to fight Chavez he should be should be willing to fight Ward or Bute who are no bigger.
      Why should he have to move up ONCE AGAIN??? He's the true 160 champion. He's a 154 fighter! The whole reason this debate even came up is because the JCC Jr camp is trying to avoid fighting him. Plain and simple. JCC Jr should step up or HE should be the one to vacate! Give Martinez his belt back that Suliamen basically gave Jr.

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      • sd southpaw
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        #53
        Originally posted by El C@cique@PR
        Hey, to the Martinez ball lickers, for one, Chavez JR weight as much as Bute and Ward on fight night, first fail!

        Second, he says Martinez will be outweight by 20 pounds, against SMW's,
        a)Chavez Jr. will outweight him by 20 pounds
        b) wont Martinez outweight Pac and/or Floyd by 20 pounds also?

        Third Lou and his camp has been saying that Martinez is a WW that fight at MW, well if he is a blown up WW fight Manny at 147!

        Martinez says Pirog aint a big enough name for him to fight him, and who the **** knows who Martinez is? He is a unknown for Pac, Money and Cotto to fight him!

        MArtinez and his team are a bunch of desperate hipocrits!!
        he wants to fight chavez the coward cuz he has the belt in his division no matter what he weighs he's fighting at middle... ward and bute are super middles. intill chavez starts fighting at 68 i dont want to hear **** about martinez moving up

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        • chiguy91
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          #54
          Originally posted by sananman50
          Yep! I'm a Cotto fan myself. I don't see how you can hate on Martinez so bad for no good reason?! I don't understand JCC Jr fan's bro.
          they're not real fans, they're just trolls. i honestly don't think jcc jr fans really exist. they're just another word for trolls.

          and i respect cotto, he's a true fighter. i just can't stand some of his fans. yeah, martinez is a MW, but he's willing to fight cotto at 154 where he was once a champ and cotto currently is. i think he might even do 152/151 if cotto really pushed for it. only reason martinez disses cotto now a days is because cotto dissed him. he always said as a reason that he won't fight martinez is because "he fights c and b level fighters". i even think he said martinez was a b level fighter. yet you fight foreman & mayorga? i don't get it. he and his team had talks about fighting chavez jr or canelo too before the mayweather fight was done. honestly, which one would you give more credit to? cotto beating canelo/chavez, or cotto beating martinez?

          Originally posted by JAB5239
          If he's willing to fight Chavez he should be should be willing to fight Ward or Bute who are no bigger.
          difference is chavez is a MW who has a belt. boxingscene posted up a couple post fight interviews, check the martinez one out. he said 'he wants the belt not chavez, he just comes with the package'. martinez has no intentions on fighting past 160 at this day and age.
          if bute and ward would come down to 160 then that'd be the same, cause they would probably be around chavez's fight night weight if they were able to squeeze down to MW like chavez does.

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          • ChampBox@PR
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            #55
            Originally posted by sananman50
            Pavlik, Williams, Dzinzurik, Macklin, and Murray...CLEANING UP! All those guys were tops guys/mandatories to his title. He whooped them all. Who is JCC Jr fighting..Manfredo??? Come on man, be real~!
            Williams,Dzinzurik JMW's, MAcklin and BArKer(Not Murray) were not mandatories, nor highly rated!

            Get your facts straight!

            So the only top MW he has face is Pavlik! And McKlin maybe!

            Originally posted by chiguy91
            who is cotto beating? who is pirog beating? are they on the p4p lists? do they have ring belts or are recognized as the true champions in their division? kid is on full hate mode, probably a cotto stan.
            Cotto>>>>>Martinez in every way, shape or form!! thats alll

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            • GRUSTLER
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              #56
              Originally posted by UglyPug
              My troubles as a boxing fan, are letting liars and scum like Lou RUIN boxing. . . Im a hardcore boxing fan, and I can't sit back and watch these two clowns rob us. . . Now, what does that say? Did, or didn't Sergio weigh in at 176 pounds TWO MONTHS into training camp?! BWHAHAHAHAHAH! THAT'S ALL! THANKS!
              What is your thoughts on Bob Arum?

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              • GodInFleshSuit
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                #57
                Originally posted by El C@cique@PR
                Williams,Dzinzurik JMW's, MAcklin and BArKer(Not Murray) were not mandatories, nor highly rated!

                Get your facts straight!

                So the only top MW he has face is Pavlik! And McKlin maybe!



                Cotto>>>>>Martinez in every way, shape or form!! thats alll
                My bad I meant Barker. Dzinzurik was undefeated and a "dangerous" high risk fight. Barker was undefeated as well. Williams makes 160 easy so he should be counted as a 160 fighter. Macklin pretty much beat Sterm who is a middleweight champion. My point being is that Martinez has been fighting high risk/little reward opponents. Jr has been fighting bums. Rubio is the best name on his record and he's very overrated, ask Pavlik! Not trying to go back and forth with you but to compare Martinez's opposition to JCC Jr's is pointless. Martinez wins that everytime.

                One side note...do you JCC Jr fans honestly think he could beat the same Williams & Pavlik Martinez schooled??? I think Macklin or Dzinzurik would probably beat him as well.

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                • chiguy91
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by El C@cique@PR
                  Williams,Dzinzurik JMW's, MAcklin and BArKer(Not Murray) were not mandatories, nor highly rated!

                  Get your facts straight!

                  So the only top MW he has face is Pavlik! And McKlin maybe!

                  Cotto>>>>>Martinez in every way, shape or form!! thats alll
                  what are you talking about? when martinez fought williams he was a highly regarded fighter, an avoided fighter at that too. you just ignoring facts. that's how sad you are. all you can come up with is ">>>>>"? just shows you have nothing intelligent to say. you make cotto fans look horrible, seriously.

                  and if you really want to go there: foreman, mayorga, and margarito. STRAIGHT TRASHHHHH.

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                  • JAB5239
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by sananman50
                    Why should he have to move up ONCE AGAIN??? He's the true 160 champion. He's a 154 fighter! The whole reason this debate even came up is because the JCC Jr camp is trying to avoid fighting him. Plain and simple. JCC Jr should step up or HE should be the one to vacate! Give Martinez his belt back that Suliamen basically gave Jr.
                    That's the whole point. He is clearly the best at 160. There is nothing for him there. If he is courting greatness he should move up. Beating fighter who are great but much smaller is nice. Conquering the best in the division above him is better.

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                    • LAFIRPO
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                      #60
                      Eveyone hating on someone, all you have to see who he's been in the ring with and what the results are. Martinez beat the number 2 guy in the division. He was the best 154 pounder and is now the best 160 pounder. Nuff said. Leave the hate behind and respect what the man has done.

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