I genuinely believe Floyd retired because he had accomplished what he wanted

[Discipline]

He achieved his goals of beating the fighters he was after since 130lb. In his eyes he felt as though there would always be Cottos and Margaritos around, popping up one after the other.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Who?.. All Top Rank fighters? Arum never wanted to make Mayweather - Cotto at any point which is why Miraculously the fight happens when he leaves Arum? Margarito was only hyped up by Bob Arum. Who did he beat? The Miguel Cotto fight is tainted. He lost to P Will in 2007. Mayweather was never going to fight Paul Williams, not because he is afraid but because Al Haymon fighters don't fight each other.

Why would Mayweather leave Top Rank (because Arum is shady & shrewd business man) to be the cash cow and turn around to fight his fighters and do business with him?

Who else was in the WW division at the time Mayweather retired?

Those three names are enough to say it was the best division in boxing. All those guys were at one time or another ranked by most in the top 10 P4P. There was also the likes of Clottey and Mosley. Could you name a better division at the time?

[Atreyu Khalil]

I completely agree it was a strategic move. He conveniently retired at a time the welterweight division was at it's best. He let Mosley, Pacquiao, Margarito, and Cotto beat the hell out of each other and returned to fight the leftovers, after they were past there best .

He left at a time the public was demanding him fight these guys at there best. Every move Floyd makes is calculated and strategic! Just like fighting Cotto now when he is clearly past his best.

In July 2007 Paul Williams defeated Margarito. Mayweather retired in Dec 2007 after defeating Ricky Hatton. In November of 2007 Shane Mosley lost to Miguel Cotto. In February of 2008 Paul Williams lost to Carlos Quintana. In July of 2008 Miguel Cotto lost to Margarito. In January 2009 Antonio Margarito (gets caught cheating) lost to Shane Mosley.

Now tell me how Mayweather retired to duck all these guys when they were all beating each other and nobody could get a decent streak of wins. Did you forget that Mayweather doesnt fight guys when they look like crap in their previous fights.

[Roman Moreno]

In July 2007 Paul Williams defeated Margarito. Mayweather retired in Dec 2007 after defeating Ricky Hatton. In November of 2007 Shane Mosley lost to Miguel Cotto. In February of 2008 Paul Williams lost to Carlos Quintana. In July of 2008 Miguel Cotto lost to Margarito. In January 2009 Antonio Margarito (gets caught cheating) lost to Shane Mosley.

Now tell me how Mayweather retired to duck all these guys when they were all beating each other and nobody could get a decent streak of wins. Did you forget that Mayweather doesnt fight guys when they look like crap in their previous fights.

Well they were all losing to each other because, they were all fighting each other. Lets not use Floyd reasoning(since he mentioned) because once he says ****** stuff. If you fight the best you will lose it comes with the territory.

Also it pretty weak that he couldn't fight so and so because they were Top Rank or Haymon fighters. Pretty lame excuse.

[Roman Moreno]

Exactly, you've nailed it.

So you're saying when the #1 beats the #2 he shouldn't fight a new #2 again? He should fight lesser opponents since he already had a win of a fighter who at one point was considered #2?

That is ridiculous. If you fight just once or twice a year then every fight should be against the best possible fight if you're a true elite fighter. Now if you fight 3 or more times a year then OK, take a gimme but once or twice. You can't complain fans asking to fight the best after the best every time.

[bojangles1987]

That opinion rings hollow to me when he returns after all those guys had fought each other and were either reaching the end or moving to new divisions.

[jai mari078]

In all honesty, no matter who Floyd beat, there was always going to be someone for Floyd to fight.

I think he felt discouraged by that. I think he felt like he was in scenes from Lord of The Rings 1, 2 and 3.

Floyd's position is different than that of the K2 bros. Meaning, no matter who Floyd beats in his division, there will always be fighters moving up to challenge him or moving down to challenge him. Even when he wacks all those guys, he will then be asked to move up and challenge someone else. Whereas the K2 bros only have to worry about 1 maybe 2 divisions.

Even if Floyd did beat Marg and Cotto, there would have been someone else. There always will be until he loses and/or retires.

I disagree! He outs so much emphasis on his 0 , he's more worried about protecting it. The reason he does this because he realizes his resume is in question compared to some of the other greats in history. To him as long as he has that 0 he can point to that and say " see I'm undefeated "

What he doesn't realize is that 0 is less important than he realizes, and people would hold him in higher regard if he defended it and fought all the best competition at there prime instead of protecting his record and defined his legacy fulfilling his potential. That is most fans frustration with him. People would have more respect for him, if he tested himself and lost a fight than protecting his record.

Leonard, Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Oscar, Shane , Quartey, Tito for example all have losses but are held in the highest regards because love them or hate them nobody can deny they fought the bet of there era.

[BoxingGenius27]

I disagree! He outs so much emphasis on his 0 , he's more worried about protecting it. The reason he does this because he realizes his resume is in question compared to some of the other greats in history. To him as long as he has that 0 he can point to that and say " see I'm undefeated "

What he doesn't realize is that 0 is less important than he realizes, and people would hold him in higher regard if he defended it and fought all the best competition at there prime instead of protecting his record and defined his legacy fulfilling his potential. That is most fans frustration with him. People would have more respect for him, if he tested himself and lost a fight than protecting his record.

Leonard, Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Oscar, Shane , Quartey, Tito for example all have losses but are held in the highest regards because love them or hate them nobody can deny they fought the bet of there era.

Tell me what you disagree about?

My point was "I'm putting myself in Floyd's shoes".

I think your point was from a "fan's perspective". I can give my opinion from a fan's perspective all day.

But regarding, a "Floyd's point of view" opinion, what do you disagree about; him protecting his 0?

[turbotime]

Yup!

Kinda funny he shows up after most of them beat the crap out of each other.

Like how he took on Mosley after he beat the crap out of Margarito?

Would you have rather he went the Pacquiao-route and fought the guy who got beat down instead? lmao

[BoxingGenius27]

I disagree! He outs so much emphasis on his 0 , he's more worried about protecting it. The reason he does this because he realizes his resume is in question compared to some of the other greats in history. To him as long as he has that 0 he can point to that and say " see I'm undefeated "

What he doesn't realize is that 0 is less important than he realizes, and people would hold him in higher regard if he defended it and fought all the best competition at there prime instead of protecting his record and defined his legacy fulfilling his potential. That is most fans frustration with him. People would have more respect for him, if he tested himself and lost a fight than protecting his record.

Leonard, Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Oscar, Shane , Quartey, Tito for example all have losses but are held in the highest regards because love them or hate them nobody can deny they fought the bet of there era.

You're basically saying the same thing I am, but in different words.

I feel that he retired because his wins would never be good enough. What's the point in beating fighters A, B, C, D, E, F ,G H, I, ........Z, if you're not going to get acknowledged for it, and will have to turn around and beat fighters 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ......... billion?

You say that he's protecting his 0. Although, I see what you're saying, I wouldn't necessarily say it in those words. You make it sound bad compared to the way he's probably looking at it.