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It's sad how good Zab Judah could have been

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  • #11
    I'm tired of hearing this. Besides the fact he's mentally weak he's not that skilled. He's gifted but not overly skilled and he lacks accuracy. He is what he is. Mental fortitude wouldn't have won him most of the fights he lost.

    Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
    I don't think he was that good really. He was always more flash than anything.

    People confuse speed with skill.
    Thank you! Exactly

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    • #12
      I actually liked Zab nice speed moved nice in the ring
      but he used to get overwhelmed too fast when the fight
      wouldn't go his way.
      Saw him fight in Newark N.J.in his come back fight and one thing
      that caught my eye was he came out with the belts, Lol
      Don't know where he got them from.
      He looked good but everyone looks good when they fight bums, like Roy Jones, Lol

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      • #13
        Zab's dad didn't bring anything to the table imo...mofo in the corner with his fist taped up screaming "ah ah ah ah" while showing Zab how to run his combos lol...its a ***ing joke and a shame....I was so happy when Pea took over even though I KNEW it wasn't gonna work...but I'm for ANYBODY other than Zab's dad

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        • #14
          Hype job. straight bum! those are the only things that come to mind when i think of Judah...oh and the chicken dance.

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          • #15
            People are going to say this same bullsh** about Victor Ortiz...

            Judah couldn't keep it up because he wasn't that good. Why can't people accept that?

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            • #16
              Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
              Normally, when you have African American fighters that are flashy and knock their opponents out like Judah did early in his career, normally this is all of the indications of a pretty damn solid fighter in the making.

              One can't help but to think this is skill, until proven otherwise.

              Do I need to name all of the African American fighters that were "flashy" that turned out to have a great deal of skill?
              If you want, I don't care go ahead. You can do whatever you want to do.

              Judah skills are not what people made it out to be.

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              • #17
                Totally one of the most hyped fighters of the last 10-12 years. Never really lived up to the hype or potential. I'll always be a fan of his though.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Even Money View Post
                  I mean his power and speed is just incomparable...

                  He always outshone the guys in his biggest fights early- even mayweather and cotto.. but he just can't keep it up lol..... and he fights so dumb.

                  What do you guys think?
                  Judah had all the tools.

                  However, it was speculated that Judah had a defect long ago. No one with his array of tools and talent loses in the manner that he has without having a defect.

                  Its not like many could really outbox him. He just folded after a certain point in his matches without seeming to have taken any damage. That's a red flag.

                  The kid was world class. He came into the ring in great condition. Something about him gave out every time since Baldomir. There's more there than what it appears.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by 1believer View Post
                    I agree, he had speed and power but I think his skills are pretty lacking. His jab is a joke and he has no real defence. The real reason why he didn't live up to most of the hype though was his lack of balls and heart.
                    I wouldn't Judah lacked balls. He was willing to fight pretty much every top fighter. The only guy that I heard Judah say no to was to Margarito. But, he just wasn't that good. Like you said had speed and power but lacked skills.

                    BTW, I could just imagine the terrible beating he would have suffered if he fought Margarito.

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                    • #20
                      He won world championships in two divisions.

                      So he did pretty damn well.

                      I don't know why people forget that.

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