Yuriorkis Gamboa: Cash cow in the making

[KnockUTheFukOut]

if his Lawyer finds a loop hole which can get him out and away from Top Rank then yeah, Gamboa can become a Cash Cow, but if he end up STUCK with Top Rank and the Judge order him to Fulfill what ever Contract he has with Top Rank then he is screwed and Arum will probably Black Ball Him

[DARKSEID]

Gamboa is actually already pretty big in Miami. Cuban people talk about him all the time and I always see him on the newspaper somewhere or in Spanish ads.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...-ponce-de-leon

his last fight

knowing who Gamboa is and actually supporting him are two different vehicles

again why are you so offended?

here so you know I am being fair about this

Mikey Garcia's been on TV, twice on HBO even and yet can't draw **** even in his backyard

facts are facts and they lay some real truths about what is real and what you want to believe is real

Gamboa is not a draw right now. Maybe he can be but now with all these legal issues it IMO sets him back a bit

What are you showing me? That Gamboa drew 2k fans? You either have pretty high standards or mine are low. That's a decent number to me considering how often Gamboa our any of these other Cuban fighters fight. This goes back to the previous ***** were we mentioned us Cuban fans atte scarce in this country due to our restrictions of not being able to migrate to this country. You went from siding with onechance's ridiculous claim that us cuban boxing fans do not support Gamboa to saying Gamboa is not a draw. I never claimed Gamboa was a draw, I agree with you on that as a matter of fact. I think we all do.

And offended? If you wanna call it that. Its absurd to say a cuban boxing fan does not support Gamboa or any of our fighters. They are the ones who bring home the medals, the only thing we have since there's no pro for us. Especially with no facts or numbers. Its like saying a cuban baseball fan didn't support El Duque. Only reason why onechance made that claim is cause of what happened in Miami or other people claiming that Gamboas fans were pissed.

Btw we are talking about cuban BOXING fans not the typical cuban who doesn't follow boxing cause its freaking obvious if you ask ANYONE who doesn't follow the sport they gonna be like who? That's anywhere. But like I said, you can ask my mom who has watched 5 fights her whole life and she can tell you who Gamboa is. I know knowing and supporting is 2 different things but I'm trying to get my point across. Can't support someone if you don't follow the sport.

Here's one for ya, if we were able to get USA channels in cuba I bet you any of these cuban boxers would outdraw Juanma. As far as cubans vs puerto ricans is concerned. Reason why I didn't say Rios is cause Mexico is much bigger than Cuba. And while Cuba is bigger than PR, PR also has more people here on this side of the states.

[Eaner0919]

What are you showing me? That Gamboa drew 2k fans? You either have pretty high standards or mine are low. That's a decent number to me considering how often Gamboa our any of these other Cuban fighters fight.

for cash cow status? yeah that's pretty low

especially for someone who's been on HBO on and off since 2008.

This goes back to the previous ***** were we mentioned us Cuban fans atte scarce in this country due to our restrictions of not being able to migrate to this country. You went from siding with onechance's ridiculous claim that us cuban boxing fans do not support Gamboa to saying Gamboa is not a draw. I never claimed Gamboa was a draw, I agree with you on that as a matter of fact. I think we all do.

relax man

onechance said Cuban fans don't care about Gamboa correct? now the way I interpet it is that he meant they do not show support by going to his fights, watching him on TV etc etc

hell this entire thread is about the potential of Gamboa as a cash cow right? I mean is it okay for people on here to debunk that without you getting so touchy?

geez

And offended? If you wanna call it that. Its absurd to say a cuban boxing fan does not support Gamboa or any of our fighters. They are the ones who bring home the medals, the only thing we have since there's no pro for us. Especially with no facts or numbers. Its like saying a cuban baseball fan didn't support El Duque. Only reason why onechance made that claim is cause of what happened in Miami or other people claiming that Gamboas fans were pissed.

I showed you what I mean by support

Btw we are talking about cuban BOXING fans not the typical cuban who doesn't follow boxing cause its freaking obvious if you ask ANYONE who doesn't follow the sport they gonna be like who? That's anywhere. But like I said, you can ask my mom who has watched 5 fights her whole life and she can tell you who Gamboa is. I know knowing and supporting is 2 different things but I'm trying to get my point across. Can't support someone if you don't follow the sport.

sure you can Pacquiao did it with ~3.4 million American based Filipino fans

Here's one for ya, if we were able to get USA channels in cuba I bet you any of these cuban boxers would outdraw Juanma. As far as cubans vs puerto ricans is concerned.

here's one what?

[CubanGuyNYC]

what earlier posts? Im not going back through this

I said it was in this thread. You can't go back a couple of pages? Here: "There are only approximately 1.5 million Cubans living in the United States. The Cubans on the island are trapped. There are approximately four million Puerto Ricans living in mainland United States. Another four million on the island travel freely. That makes eight million. There are well over thirty million Mexicans living in the U.S.!"

messageboards equate to the hardcore of the hardcore and that is a very minute number. I know, I ran MaxBoxing's board for 4 years. We are the small minority so while he may be a great interest on here it does not mean he translates well to the average boxing fan.

I made it clear that the boards are only a part of what I base my judgement on. We'll agree to disagree on this subject. I believe Gamboa is a fairly popular fighter, at least among fans.

actually he was. HBO wanted Rios in with someone other than Abril for him to still be on 4/14. Wasn't so much as Rios more than the level of opponent dropping from Gamboa to Abril. They were looking for another match up that could garner excitement thus their requests for Alvarado or Provodnikov

and it seems more like HBO is allowing TR to use their vehicle to do the PPV not fully buying onto it.

I'll grant you that.

but in this instance he is not off in his statements

you may like your fighters you may have community presence about your fighters

but until you show support by going or viewing or getting the masses interested in Gamboa then in reality he does not have your support

He is indeed off in his statements, as he so often is, because you can't blame Cubans for lacking a fan-base when there are very few Cubans to begin with. And what am I supposed to say about Mikey Garcia not drawing flies, when he has a 30+ million Mexican fan-base to draw from?

that comes off naive

you realize that in boxing they have handed unwarranted millions to fighters undeserving
let me ask you this then

why would we criticize HBOs handling of Berto, or Bradley neither of whom draw or get ratings yet when it comes to Gamboa

"oh well that's different they know what they see in Gamboa"

really why?

HBO and Showtime overspend that's been an issue for some time, discussed here on these very boards

just because it's now focused on Yuri doesn't change the landscape

That's not the point. Of course they make mistakes. Everyone does. The point is that they are making a bet on Gamboa. That indeed says something. It's not done for just anyone. They might be wrong about Yuri, too. But I tend to favor their judgement over people on an Internet message board....

[onechance87]

So u cubans agree with me,That gamboa wont be a cash cow.
For the reason of all the cubans are locked up n cuba lol

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

for cash cow status? yeah that's pretty low

especially for someone who's been on HBO on and off since 2008.



relax man

onechance said Cuban fans don't care about Gamboa correct? now the way I interpet it is that he meant they do not show support by going to his fights, watching him on TV etc etc

hell this entire thread is about the potential of Gamboa as a cash cow right? I mean is it okay for people on here to debunk that without you getting so touchy?

geez



I showed you what I mean by support


sure you can Pacquiao did it with ~3.4 million American based Filipino fans



here's one what?

We are obviously not on the same page here. I never claimed Gamboa was a cash cow or a big draw. My whole beef/argument was when onechance threw some bs out there claiming that us cuban fans don't support Gamboa and you agreed with him but now you're changing your whole argument... Cu****uy's argument was just cause his fan base and draw isn't as big as other boxers it doesn't mean we don't support him. It simply means us cubans are outnumbered in this country.

[CubanGuyNYC]

for cash cow status? yeah that's pretty low

especially for someone who's been on HBO on and off since 2008.


sure you can Pacquiao did it with ~3.4 million American based Filipino fans

The thread title clearly states "Cash cow in the making." Obviously Gamboa isn't one now. The TS made his case for Yuri's future status as a superstar.

Manny hasn't become a superstar because of his Filipino fans, and Gamboa won't become a mega-star because of Cuban fans (even less so). A big star becomes such because they capture the imagination of much greater masses.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

So u cubans agree with me,That gamboa wont be a cash cow.
For the reason of all the cubans are locked up n cuba lol

Eaner and this was the ignorant piece of **** you were siding with?

I think us cubans are being realistic saying Gamboa could be but isn't atm. So his "cash cow" status if he was to be, is on hold sure to legal issues.

[louvega]

I don't think a comparison with Pacquiao is valid. It took Pacquiao lots of fights (some with very well-known boxers) on HBO to build up his popularity, starting with the Tyson-Lewis undercard ten years ago. It was a very long process. Same with Floyd.

The problem with Gamboa is he is already 30 and has been quite invisible for the average boxing fan. He has fought some good boxers but no real famous names and he doesn't have 10 years to build up his fanbase. I don't think Gamboa has the time nor the support (from fans, HBO, promoters) to become a cashcow.