Yuriorkis Gamboa: Cash cow in the making

[FirePunch]

One would think so, but that didn't stop Pacquiao. No offense to Manny, but he isn't exactly "Mr. Charisma". He's comparable in size to Gamboa, and his English isn't great even now. What made Pacquiao a superstar is his exciting fighting style and the persona that's been built around it. (Some may say it's manufactured, but hey.)

Hell no pacmans always been cool
Tapping his gloves during exchanges smiling non stop and waving in ring entrances .
For some reason he always had that asian bad a s s bruce lee persona .


That combined with his style is what gained fans . When he knocked out lucero i knew i witnessed a star in the making .

Havent felt that from gamboa at all

looks like hes going to be another joan guzman

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

that's fine and can agree to a point but oncechance does make a correct point in that for the most part the US based Cuban audience does not follow their fighters like others. Don't know why the other guy got all bent he's not disrespecting Cubans at all



but this never translates into actual popularity messageboard activity does not translate into ticket sales, popularity overall, and ratings

and you're wrong about why HBO pulled out of the Rios bout. HBO wanted the match up NOT the fighters theirselves.

Even at that point the interest still was there if TR was willing to match Rios up with Alvarado or Provodnikov.


again not sure why you and the other guy are so offended over what onechance said but stop being so touchy over something that is essentially true

or do you have actual numbers to support Gamboa's popularity?

and the whole "well he's making ____ someone must think he's something" hold no water at all

/Andre Berto

Or maybe you and onechance can provide us with those numbers? Since you two claim that Cubans don't support Gamboa. I live in a community filled with cubans and can tell you that is false. Hell, I know cubans who don't watch boxing as religiously as I do and know who Gamboa is.

[CubanGuyNYC]

that's fine and can agree to a point but oncechance does make a correct point in that for the most part the US based Cuban audience does not follow their fighters like others. Don't know why the other guy got all bent he's not disrespecting Cubans at all

It may seem that way, but if you refer to my earlier posts in this thread you'll see my retort.

but this never translates into actual popularity messageboard activity does not translate into ticket sales, popularity overall, and ratings

and you're wrong about why HBO pulled out of the Rios bout. HBO wanted the match up NOT the fighters theirselves.

Even at that point the interest still was there if TR was willing to match Rios up with Alvarado or Provodnikov.

I'm not so naive as to believe that message board activity equals ticket sales. My assessment of Gamboa's following is based on several factors, including the apparent interest he commands on these boards. I have no access to Yuri's raw numbers, but the excitement he seems to generate is pretty evident. Are you telling me you don't think Yuri has a fairly good following among boxing fans?

I understand that the HBO interest was a package deal. I was using the point essentially to demonstrate to Onechance that Rios evidently isn't considered big enough to carry the card by himself. (No shame there.) It was in reply to his talk about "fan-bases." (As I write this, I believe that HBO is now offering a PPV card featuring Brandon.)

again not sure why you and the other guy are so offended over what onechance said but stop being so touchy over something that is essentially true

What's essentially true? That Cubans don't support their fighters? Again, I refer you to my earlier posts. And if our replies seem touchy, it's because Onechance has a habit of making snide or blatantly offensive remarks about Cuban fighters, if not Cubans themselves.

or do you have actual numbers to support Gamboa's popularity?

No, just anecdotal evidence and my own observations. Do you have actual numbers for Brandon?

and the whole "well he's making ____ someone must think he's something" hold no water at all

/Andre Berto

Actually, it does. While I agree that you can't say fighter "X" is making 1.1M and fighter "Y" is making 1M, therefore fighter "X" is more valuable, the point is that business executives are not in the habit of giving away money to fighters they don't expect a certain return from.

[Eaner0919]

Or maybe you and onechance can provide us with those numbers? Since you two claim that Cubans don't support Gamboa. I live in a community filled with cubans and can tell you that is false. Hell, I know cubans who don't watch boxing as religiously as I do and know who Gamboa is.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...-ponce-de-leon

his last fight

knowing who Gamboa is and actually supporting him are two different vehicles

again why are you so offended?

here so you know I am being fair about this

Mikey Garcia's been on TV, twice on HBO even and yet can't draw **** even in his backyard

facts are facts and they lay some real truths about what is real and what you want to believe is real

Gamboa is not a draw right now. Maybe he can be but now with all these legal issues it IMO sets him back a bit

[onechance87]

Or maybe you and onechance can provide us with those numbers? Since you two claim that Cubans don't support Gamboa. I live in a community filled with cubans and can tell you that is false. Hell, I know cubans who don't watch boxing as religiously as I do and know who Gamboa is.

heres a link puto,Theres alot more,But i dont wanna waste time finding
them.Find them ur selve.Dont be so senstive man.http://theboxingtruth.com/article.php?id=1898

[CubanGuyNYC]

Hell no pacmans always been cool
Tapping his gloves during exchanges smiling non stop and waving in ring entrances .
For some reason he always had that asian bad a s s bruce lee persona .


That combined with his style is what gained fans . When he knocked out lucero i knew i witnessed a star in the making .

Havent felt that from gamboa at all

looks like hes going to be another joan guzman

I first saw Pac many years ago, but I can't say I've followed him religiously throughout his career. It may be that he has a more marketable personality than Gamboa, but I'm certain his charisma has taken some leaps as his success and popularity grew. I believe Manny's star has risen primarily because of his fighting ability and the perception of his wins. Likeable or not, you need to win...and in exciting fashion. Yuri does that.

There's no way you can compare the Pacquiao of today with the Manny of five years ago. In a few years (if Gamboa's career hasn't been derailed already), you might be amazed at how Yuri's fame -- and charisma -- has grown.

[onechance87]

cant believe gamboa was getting more money then rios.That is
an outrage,Rios should of been the one to pull out lol

[Eaner0919]

It may seem that way, but if you refer to my earlier posts in this thread you'll see my retort.

what earlier posts? Im not going back through this

I'm not so naive as to believe that message board activity equals ticket sales. My assessment of Gamboa's following is based on several factors, including the apparent interest he commands on these boards. I have no access to Yuri's raw numbers, but the excitement he seems to generate is pretty evident. Are you telling me you don't think Yuri has a fairly good following among boxing fans?

no I don't

messageboards equate to the hardcore of the hardcore and that is a very minute number. I know, I ran MaxBoxing's board for 4 years. We are the small minority so while he may be a great interest on here it does not mean he translates well to the average boxing fan.

I understand that the HBO interest was a package deal. I was using the point essentially to demonstrate to Onechance that Rios evidently isn't considered big enough to carry the card by himself. (No shame there.) It was in reply to his talk about "fan-bases." (As I write this, I believe that HBO is now offering a PPV card featuring Brandon.)

actually he was. HBO wanted Rios in with someone other than Abril for him to still be on 4/14. Wasn't so much as Rios more than the level of opponent dropping from Gamboa to Abril. They were looking for another match up that could garner excitement thus their requests for Alvarado or Provodnikov

and it seems more like HBO is allowing TR to use their vehicle to do the PPV not fully buying onto it.

What's essentially true? That Cubans don't support their fighters? Again, I refer you to my earlier posts. And if our replies seem touchy, it's because Onechance has a habit of making snide or blatantly offensive remarks about Cuban fighters, if not Cubans themselves.

but in this instance he is not off in his statements

you may like your fighters you may have community presence about your fighters

but until you show support by going or viewing or getting the masses interested in Gamboa then in reality he does not have your support

No, just anecdotal evidence and my own observations. Do you have actual numbers for Brandon?

probably

Actually, it does. While I agree that you can't say fighter "X" is making 1.1M and fighter "Y" is making 1M, therefore fighter "X" is more valuable, the point is that business executives are not in the habit of giving away money to fighters they don't expect a certain return from.

that comes off naive

you realize that in boxing they have handed unwarranted millions to fighters undeserving

let me ask you this then

why would we criticize HBOs handling of Berto, or Bradley neither of whom draw or get ratings yet when it comes to Gamboa

"oh well that's different they know what they see in Gamboa"

really why?

HBO and Showtime overspend that's been an issue for some time, discussed here on these very boards

just because it's now focused on Yuri doesn't change the landscape

[CubanGuyNYC]

Top Rank's appraisal of Gamboa (taken from their lawsuit): "A gifted boxer platformed by Top Rank for superstardom."

The promoter is going to use all kinds of language to appear injured in their suit, but it's pretty clear they consider Yuri a very valuable property. Arum and his team have been doing this a long time. They know Gamboa is indeed a potential superstar.

[Eaner0919]

and he's called Rios the next Mexican legend but until that happens it's nothing but superlatives hyping an individual