SMH @ Freddie. Roach "How about we drug test Floyd every month"

[The Big Dunn]

You're stuck on what happened in 09. When you fastforward to NOW, let me know. Not even Floyd is stuck on what happened in 09. Why are you? Floyd has moved on to bigger and better roadblocks.

No PPV revenue for Pac! Really? LOL.

I've already said that was greedy and manny rightfully refused. You can keep trying to change the discussion but that wont work. You want floyd to make a better offer so you can see the fight. How about wanting manny to accept a worse offer TODAY, since he turned the best one down, so you can see the fight?

When you do that, then I'm with you.

[AFighter4U]

Floyd and Manny are the LAST two people that could get a fight done together. Which is why they have people (much smarter people) to represent them.

true, true.

but you did ask me if they were negotiating. and so far, the two of them were talking to each other for an unknown number of times. regardless of their ability to actually close the deal, they did negotiate.

really no different than two cavemen trying to figure out how to divide the day's kill without killing each other.

[The Big Dunn]

Is floyds words devine to you? It seems as though whatever floyd says, is what floyd gets, and there's no other way around it. Do you agree he deserves 100% of the revenue split?

With Manny outselling him the last 3 fights, he has a very clear case for them being equal, but some how floyd deserves 100%? If floyd was a clear #1, he'd put up 2.0 million PPVs per fight, that ISNT the case. ODLH was putting up 1.2 consistently, while floyd at the same time was doing 350k, tops.

How can floyd not be blamed for the latest round of negotiations. He wants 100%, that **** isnt happening. His recent demand demonstrates the lack of effort in finalizing the fight.

I never said manny should accept $40 mil. Its an unfair deal. But manny refused the best deal 30 months ago so he is likely going to have to agree to something less than that to get fight made.

Hold manny accountable for a bad business decision.

[chito]

Floyd and Manny are the LAST two people that could get a fight done together. Which is why they have people (much smarter people) to represent them.

i thought floyd was his own promoter?! where did i see that post here, it's been said a lot during floyd-pac threads? just asking....

[COACH WEBB]

i thought floyd was his own promoter?! where did i see that post here, it's been said a lot during floyd-pac threads? just asking....

Sure. But he doesn't negotiate his own fights, however. He has Haymon and Ellerbe do that on his behalf.

[kiaba360]

How about Pac does USADA testing for one ****in fight lol. While Floyd continues to have blood tests during every fight, Pac continues to NOT have those tests. Roach needs to shut the **** up and worry about Bradley.

[shogunn]

I never said manny should accept $40 mil. Its an unfair deal. But manny refused the best deal 30 months ago so he is likely going to have to agree to something less than that to get fight made.

Hold manny accountable for a bad business decision.

haha, so floyd isnt accountable for asking for 100% of the PPV revenue this time around? Right, Im gonna have to lay blame Manny for that one.

[PlayerKiller]

Still, obviously better than the current one. If anything.

And didn't Conte say he believes Pacquaio was on Steroids?

Do you take his word for everything?

He said the same for both fighters.

There were two Greek Olympic medalists that use to take breaks and come back for big competitions. They were not tested because they didn't enter the small competitions.

Anyway, what does Floyd do? Have retirements out of the blue and come back still fresh?

[Wapacman]

Cant the same be said for 98% of all boxers? Why submit to something that isnt mandated?

Bhop has been accused of ped's. Do you hold him to the same standards as Pac since he hasnt volunteered to undergo OSDT just to prove himself?

Bhop is suspect. He and all championship fighters should be taking better tests.

[Boxingtech718v2]

Well Cotto doesn't have a problem with it, in fact he embraces the extra testing as do most.
That's all that matters because I've given up hope of May/Pac actually happening.