not even basing this off titles.weight classes.ect cause too many loop holes now a days...but going off solely pure skill..hes not too far off!
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Roger Mayweather don't know ***** about boxing.
Floyd is not even the greatest fighter of this generation, he probably sc****s into my top 50 ATG list.
2nd!!! You are really having a laugh Roger, but he is your nephew, you do train him and you are crazy, so shouldn't really be a surprise that this is your view.
Off the top of my head 10 fighters ranked higher than Floyd
SRR
Greb
SRL
Duran
Ali
Charles
Jorfe
Armstrong
Langford
Pacquiao
The only thing Floyd is a No.1 ATG in is ducking, nobody beats Floyd at ducking, nobody!
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Originally posted by fvanesbeck View Posthahaha, i don't think he quoted one number correctly there. i laughed very hard when he said lamotta outweighed him by 50 pounds.
on a more serious note, floyd is not the second greatest fighter of all time. he is a great fighter, but because of the way boxing is today he has been able to be much more selective with opponents than robinson or anyone in past generations could be. i'm not hating by the way, but floyd wouldn't even be in my top 10 - i think that way too much is made of the fact that he's unbeaten. people seem to think that it makes him invincible, which no one is.
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2nd greatest but yet asking a one dimensional, one trick pony midget no head movement to take a OSDT because he was su****ious? GTFO
Imagine how Sugar Ray Robinson's legacy be affected if he did ask the same thing from one of his greatest threat?
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SRR seems to be the consensus number 1 greatest fighter ever knowing Rogers love for Henry Armstrong I'm surprised he would rank Mayweather 2 behind SRR and not Armstrong
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Lets be fair to all fighters:
According to Wikipedia the 130 , 140 pound class didn't come until 1959
154 came in 1962 and 168 later
Robinson came from 147 to 160 he didn't have the privilege of the intermediate weight classes and its really not fair to judge by this.
So what is a fair way to judge fighters ?
Is it the undefeated record ? Sounds great !! Chavez Sr went like 80 fights without a loss, so he is way up there, and didn't SRR go over a hundred before his loss ? How bout the guy that went 49 fights with 43 KO's ?? NOBODY that I KNOW has come close to beating that RECORD, not V. Kliks, he has a couple of losses, the GREAT Rock Marciano had no losses !
Heavy weights can't go up a class can they , hahaha,
If we are judging by how many weight classes one has won a championship in then its a no brainer:
Manny Pacquiao is the WINNER ! The GREATEST of ALL TIME !!!!! But thats not fair as well.
Roger is WRONG and he don't know as much as he thinks he knows, he is naturally biased.
My main criteria would have to be coupled together with Did the fighter take on ALL COMERS ?
Taking on all comers and winning in grand style is very appealing.
The fighters in lets say Marciano's day may not have been as good as in ALI's day but what we can say without a doubt is that Rocky fought them all and did it without a loss and KO'd 43 out of 49.
Ali had fought the greatest fighters in my opinion over a long haul and with great style, he took on all comers, he ran from NO ONE, he ducked NO ONE, he sought out the very best and he fought them.
Pac has had many fights and with losses in the beginning but has NOT ducked anyone.
JR, Mayweather JR is a disappointment !! His style stinks up a fight, his skills are good but he refused to be tested in the Welterweight division by ducking PRIME ELITE WW's, back 4 years ago, Cotto, Williams, Margo.
Because he has ducked and refused to fight Pac, making excuses and unholy demands for three years to finally come to a last resort in the money aspect saying he gets all the ppv money and Pac gets none and that he is looking out for his health and putting the name Pac in the same sentence , self preservation and now to hear that Roger is placing JR second to SRR leads one to erase all doubt now about Roger:
The poor soul has gone luney tunes.
Personally I think Cassius Clay / Ali was the greatest fighter of all time.
He fought ALL GREAT COMERS, not a few, for years and won. He even won when he finally lost.
I don't know where Pac is in the mix but without a doubt Pac is way ahead of JR.
Poor ole Jr will carry the stigma that is too late to erase,,,TOO LATE,
He is the Main DUCKER in the counsel halls of Boxing eternal, he wins the prize as the man with skills but no heart to prove it continually, he has an undefeated record because he has cherry picked his way to where he is NOW.
He is Claim without substance
sad but true
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