I think vitilia prime beats prime tyson

[jimmy1569]

Spinx was a light heavyweight who was terrified. Holmes was old and coming off of two losses to that light heavyweight and Ruddock never was **** so I won't even go there. What about Ruddock makes you people think he was worth a dog turd? He wasn't. Tyson's reign was garbage and historians are the only people who rank him over either Klitschko.

Here's another little salt in the wound, while you are trying to conjure up thoughts of a past American who may have defeated prime Vitali our country is getting crapped on by European fighters. It's a shame people on here have to be hung up on race and nationality when ranking fighters.

If Vitali was a black rapist who was American from Harlem, he would be the goat. It's a joke. So while were debating this Wlad and Vitali can stil enjoy their 8 year reign as champions of the world and nothing you haters can say will deter the fact that they are stand outs and would have been in any era.

Oh and continue to be delusional and then frequent any and all threads involving the Klitschko's just to belittle them at the same time having avitars of insulting pics of them, then call people who defend them trolls.

I like the new mugshot!

[jimmy1569]

I'm talking boxing, if you don't like it tough ****. And you OBVIOUSLY read my posts or you wouldn't have responded to my last one. As far as sparring goes...sure, bring your happy ass to Statesville if you want. Here's my number, 704-450-6684. What now?

Guys.. chill... no need to get testy.. at the end of the day everything stated here is opinion based & rarely factual so getting worked up over someone else's differing views is to get mind phocked on acid>>> it's futile.. son.. WHOMEVER you're NOT down with.. ignore & move on.

Btw... my factual opinions is the only thing that's set in stone up in here.

Carry on & what are you gonna do.. jab him to death.

[jimmy1569]

Ike was a black rapist/murderer who lived in AMerica. Beat a bunch of bums and blasted Prime Byrd faster than any Klitschko ever did. Is anyone accusing him of being the GOAT? No.


Its not about nationality, Vitali could be a purple heavyweight and his resume would still be ****. If Vitali was an INdonesian man like CHris John, my opinion would not change...he hasnt beaten anyone of note and lost to the two best fighters he ever faced.

There is some truth to the Klitschko background playing a part in there non popularity here in the States so stop blatantly downplaying it. All you have to do is go to Germany or the Ukraine & see how they are worshipped as gods over there... you think all those peeps are concerned with bs resume qualifications? All they see is dominance & destruction plus unprecedented knockouts & that's good enough for them as they are proud to call them there own... we on the other hand can't call them our own & let's face facts.. Germany & THE uKRAINE ain't exactly the most popular US & abroad allies over the yrs.

This is why there is No Billboard of them in Times Square & before you tell me Manny PAC or some other fighter that is foreign getting the red carpet treatment.. how many of those popular fighters hail from Germany or The Ukraine.



Your honor i rest my case once again@!

[jimmy1569]

Ike was a black rapist/murderer who lived in AMerica. Beat a bunch of bums and blasted Prime Byrd faster than any Klitschko ever did. Is anyone accusing him of being the GOAT? No.


Its not about nationality, Vitali could be a purple heavyweight and his resume would still be ****. If Vitali was an INdonesian man like CHris John, my opinion would not change...he hasnt beaten anyone of note and lost to the two best fighters he ever faced.

Btw.. Vitali is the GOAT.. I'm accusing him of it.. regardless of all the ignorance & blatant hate towards the Klitschko's on boxing forums across the world.. ONLY RESUME THAT MATTERS TO ME IS 6FT 8 250 LBS OF LEAN & MEAN DESTRUCTION with NUMBERS NO ONE IN THE HISTORY OF THE HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION HAS BEEN ABLE TO AMASS & ever will.. Find me ANY ranked fighter that has won 95% of the rds he's ever fought & KO'ED nearly 90% of his entire opposition & i'll just know you're lying because that fighter has NEVER existed.

The reason all of you's can't stand Vitali & try to tear him down limb by limb & show pictures of him as if he were auditioning for a horror flick or quittin' on the job while in command & then shetting on his entire opposition IS BECAUSE you're all scrambling AS THERE'S NO OTHER BLEMISHES ON HIS RESUME & ALL OF YOU know i'm 100% right & this irks you... after 46 bouts & 231 rds...you guys still think he can be outboxed or outslugged but HAVE YET to find a viable strategy or blueprint to carry out such a task.. easy to say Ali or Louis or prime Lewis can get the job done... not so easy to actually state what they are going to do.


If You watched the Chisora/Klitschko faceoff on the BBC prior to all the bad publicity.. cHISORA was predicting victory in the 8th rd & yet offered no strategy as to how he was going to go about doing it when Vitali questioned him about it. Heed this as this is the same gameplan ANYONE fighting him will have.. JAW 100% shatterproof... Size 99.9% taller than anyone else... strength 99% stronger than anyone else..






How can YOU actually beat a guy legitimately when he's got the jaw covered.. reach covered.. size & strength covered.. yrs & yrs of experience fighting all different types of fighters.. sometimes even kicking & punching them... even when he's injured he STILL outlands you.. STILL outthrows you still outboxes & outslugs.... it's HAPPENED ALL 46 tIMES HE'S FOUGHT... how many can say that about there boxing resume & actually mean it...




VITALI IS THE ONLY ONE TO EVER DO THIS FOR EVERY PROFESSIONAL BOXING MATCH... YOU people need to get a GRIP & realize just how dominant a fighter Vitali Klitschko has been & start to give props where props is due.. there's no way around it.. anyone who fights him starts off at a disadvantage whether it's his little bro... prime Lewis & Louis.. Tyson.. Foreman... Ali... SRR.. SRL.. FLOYD... MANNY..... you name it.





Vitali can hit you from every conceivable angle.. whether he's backing up.... winding up sideways or standing in the pocket.. if you try to hit him.. you get hit more.. if you try to make him miss.. you'll hit him much less & have to sacrifice nearly your entire offense to accomplish this (see Byrd & Kj) It's happened for all 46 fights EMPHATICALLY & WITH NO EXCEPTIONS that it's safe to actually say it's foolproof.. in fact it's more foolproof than Rocky Marciano winning all 49 of his fights as Rocky was in danger of losing.. Vitali has NEVER been in danger of being outboxed.. outslugged... outscorecarded.. outthrown or or outlanded in ANY one of his fights.. he's been outcut once & outinjured once.. that's it.

[jimmy1569]

Vitali Klitschko.. projected stats if no injuries ever occured in train camp or during a bout

58-0 52 ko's .. 100% win ratio 90% ko ratio 95% scorecard ratio All 3 ratios are #1 rank
44-2 40 ko's 96% win ratio 87% ko ratio 95% scorecard ratio as it stands today.

Notice the scorecard ratio remains relatively the same.. the reason for that is because this is the only stat that is NOT seriously affected by the completion of the bouts in question.

[Florence76]

I think mike tyson bounces wlad's head off the canvas like a basketball in the first .

[Mr. Invincible]

Ike was a black rapist/murderer who lived in AMerica. Beat a bunch of bums and blasted Prime Byrd faster than any Klitschko ever did. Is anyone accusing him of being the GOAT? No.


Its not about nationality, Vitali could be a purple heavyweight and his resume would still be ****. If Vitali was an INdonesian man like CHris John, my opinion would not change...he hasnt beaten anyone of note and lost to the two best fighters he ever faced.

Why harp on it? Ike wasn't **** because he was nutso. He was a big strong brawler and would be another Klitschko victim in this era. Oh, and on topic, he was never a big deal because his stay at the top was very, very short lived. Otherwise, he probably would have been taken apart by Lennox and considered an ATG by people like you who thinks Lennox could do no wrong even though he got starched twice by B and C level fighters.

[Mr. Invincible]

For fox sake Invincible, was there any need for that???



Only top ranked in this shart era.

Who in Lennox's era would have troubled Vitali so much because I just don't see it.

[Fish_Scotland]

Prime Wlad was still chinney, he gets KO'd by prime Tyson. Vitali its tough to say, Prime Tyson was a beast, and focused, and vitali hasn't faced anyone with that speed and power. I favor prime Tyson in that fight too.

This is how I see it.....

[Mr. Invincible]

I COMPLETELY AGREE with TS. . . Tyson is one of the most OVERRATED boxers of all time.

Lol he gets to have the shortest "prime" ever. . . Vitali NOW would beat a prime Tyson. . . Too strong, reflexes too good, and just too clever for Mike. . . The difference in ring IQ is EXPONENTIAL. . .

Tyson's kryptonite = tall, rangy jab, equal or better power, intelligence, and NO FEAR. . . All of his early opponents feared him; first man who didn't fear him, journeyman skill level NOTWITHSTANDING, LITERALLY turned him into his personal little beeotch.

Vitali would slice Tyson to a million pieces. . . Punch stats would be RECORD SETTING.

Actually, I don't think the fight would last long enough for that but it would be bad while it lasted, I agree.