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  • Mr. Invincible
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    #201
    Originally posted by 915angel
    tyson ko's wlad
    Possibly but Tyson has never been hit as hard as Wlad can. It's a matter of who gets caught first. Prime Wlad is pretty damn elusive.

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    • Mr. Invincible
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      #202
      Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA
      Yea huh infinity
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      Lol so huh

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #203
        Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
        Because Tyson has zero chance to outbox him and not much to Ko him.
        This is where you have to be honest about quality of opposition. Vitali has good skills, but has never beaten anyone of Mike's quality. Mike is a HOF HWT, whether some over rate him or not.

        You are betting on Vitali based on his getting battered and bloodied, even though he was ahead on the scorecards, against Lennox Lewis in a fight taken on relatively short notice. The only other quality HWT he fought he quit!

        Vitali IMO, would be equivalent to Pinklon Thomas or Razor Ruddock if he fought in TYson's era. Imagine Mike against Vitali's comp. Please.

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        • 915angel
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          #204
          tyson's comp wasnt that impressive either (not hatin both are hof's) neither have had great comp,, but whats tysons greates win in your opinion?? larry holmes goin into that fight lost 2 hard wars to spink before fightin tyson,, spinks was a little over his prime IMO the spinks/holmes 2 wars took alot out of both fighters,,


          lost to a holyfield whos already been beat by rid**** and moore

          lost to a douglas whom has been tko'd by tony tucker

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            #205
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            This is where you have to be honest about quality of opposition. Vitali has good skills, but has never beaten anyone of Mike's quality. Mike is a HOF HWT, whether some over rate him or not.

            You are betting on Vitali based on his getting battered and bloodied, even though he was ahead on the scorecards, against Lennox Lewis in a fight taken on relatively short notice. The only other quality HWT he fought he quit!

            Vitali IMO, would be equivalent to Pinklon Thomas or Razor Ruddock if he fought in TYson's era. Imagine Mike against Vitali's comp. Please.

            same can be said for mike whom has he beaten that has the quailteys (typo) of vitaly

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            • Mr. Invincible
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              #206
              Originally posted by Big Dunn
              This is where you have to be honest about quality of opposition. Vitali has good skills, but has never beaten anyone of Mike's quality. Mike is a HOF HWT, whether some over rate him or not.

              You are betting on Vitali based on his getting battered and bloodied, even though he was ahead on the scorecards, against Lennox Lewis in a fight taken on relatively short notice. The only other quality HWT he fought he quit!

              Vitali IMO, would be equivalent to Pinklon Thomas or Razor Ruddock if he fought in TYson's era. Imagine Mike against Vitali's comp. Please.
              Lol at saying Vitali is equal to Pinkleton Thomas. This is the reason I can't take you seriously. Vitali's opposition has been almost exclusively top ten since he fought Lewis. This is where I think you are mistaken. I rank his reign just as good as Tyson's except it's been more dominant and lengthier.

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                #207
                Originally posted by 915angel
                tyson's comp wasnt that impressive either (not hatin both are hof's) neither have had great comp,, but whats tysons greates win in your opinion?? larry holmes goin into that fight lost 2 hard wars to spink before fightin tyson,, spinks was a little over his prime IMO the spinks/holmes 2 wars took alot out of both fighters,,


                lost to a holyfield whos already been beat by rid**** and moore

                lost to a douglas whom has been tko'd by tony tucker
                i think the point in those 2 fights is not that he beat both more like HOW he beat both...Larry was not nearly his prime...his only losses were point losses against Spinks another HOF and after that he loses again...by a ****in brutal KO...this was the first and last KO loss from Holmes...and by the way 6 years later an even more ****ed up Holmes fought 12 rounds against Holyfield...you see...the win in itself isnt that great more like how he won...the same with Spinks...he was 31 years old...and still one of the best (i would even say at that time the best with Mike) heavyweight fighters + and HOFer...never lost...never was floored...nothing...and then comes prime Tyson and knocks this still credible HOFer out in round mutha****ing 1...you see...these are not even nearly the best wins in the HW history or something...hell no...but still very good wins if you look at the background of that...and only this 2-0 record from Mike against these 2 are better than all of Vit & Wlads wins against these C+ fighters.
                Last edited by WesleySnipes; 03-19-2012, 04:31 PM.

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                • Jedi Vader
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                  #208
                  The best fighter they both fought was Lewis so let's put it into simple context.

                  Lewis destroyed an out of prime and shape Tyson in 8 rounds.

                  Lewis destroyed a primed and very much in shape Vitali in 6 rounds.

                  That tells you that Tyson would decapitate Vitali.
                  Last edited by Jedi Vader; 03-19-2012, 05:40 PM.

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                  • JAB5239
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
                    Why harp on it? Ike wasn't **** because he was nutso. He was a big strong brawler and would be another Klitschko victim in this era. Oh, and on topic, he was never a big deal because his stay at the top was very, very short lived.

                    Ibeabuchi may or may not have beaten the Klits, its hard to say since his career derailed. What is not difficult to say is he beat two fighters (Byrd and Tua) better than anyone Vitaly has beaten.

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                      #210
                      Originally posted by Big Dunn
                      Tyson may be over rated by some, but Vitali hasn't beaten anyone with a pulse so how do we figure he can beat Mike so easily?

                      He doesn't figure, he automatically assumes based on his bigoted views.

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