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  • Mr. Invincible
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    #61
    Originally posted by Barnburner
    That wasn't Tyson's prime. If you didn't have an agenda based opinion you would stop using that as a crutch.
    How was 24-25 years old not his prime? Did he lose his prime between that fight and the fight prior?

    Your the one with the agenda making you delusional.

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      #62
      Originally posted by vironaprile8
      Shut up about rboin givens & cus, it's getting boring!
      I didn't agree with that part, I was agreeing with him partially agreeing with my post.

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        #63
        Originally posted by -D33Pwaters-
        It was but he was just heavily under prepared and out of shape.
        Depends your definition of prime.

        In hypothetical matches I just assume "prime" means when said fighter looked the best. Which for the Douglas fight was certainly not the case when it comes to Tyson.

        So in a hypothetical match-up using the Buster Douglas excuse is ******.

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          #64
          Originally posted by -D33Pwaters-
          It was but he was just heavily under prepared and out of shape.
          Thanks for the rational backup.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Barnburner
            Depends your definition of prime.

            In hypothetical matches I just assume "prime" means when said fighter looked the best. Which for the Douglas fight was certainly not the case when it comes to Tyson.

            So in a hypothetical match-up using the Buster Douglas excuse is ******.
            Why is that? Lol, he was a 40-1 under dog and was almost considered the greatest upset of all time.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
              How was 24-25 years old not his prime? Did he lose his prime between that fight and the fight prior?

              Your the one with the agenda making you delusional.
              Who says prime is proportional to age... Physical prime and actual prime are not the same thing.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
                Why is that? Lol, he was a 40-1 under dog and was almost considered the greatest upset of all time.
                Because Mike Tyson looked terrible for that fight...

                What's not to get lol?

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                  #68
                  Mike Tyson
                  Lennox Lewis
                  Time Line posted by ESPN opinion writer


                  Mike Tyson

                  85-87 Pre-Physical Prime Pre -Boxing Prime highly motivated

                  88- Holmes Spinks fights -Physical Prime Boxing Prime Extremely Motivated

                  Buster Douglas Fight- Physical Prime Boxing Prime motivation:non existence


                  Razer Ruddock 1 2 - Physical Prime slightly pass boxing prime
                  highly motivated


                  Prison Stretch- Physical Prime - end of boxing prime


                  Holyfield 1-2 Slightly Pass Physical Prime -pass boxing prime very motivated


                  Golota- Slightly pass physical prime -Pass boxing prime Very motivated

                  Lewis- Way pass physical prime -way pass boxing prime Very Motivated



                  Lennox Lewis

                  Ruddock-Tucker-Bruno -Pre Physical Prime- Pre Boxing Prime
                  Extremely motivated

                  Oliver Mccall 1- Pre-Physical Prime Pre-Boxing Prime motivation: minimal

                  Ray Mercer Mccall 2: Physical Prime Pre-Boxing Prime Extremely Motivated


                  Golota Briggs Holyfield: Physical Prime-Boxing Prime Extremely Motivated

                  Grant-Tua: Pass Physical Prime -Boxing Prime - Extremely Motivated

                  Rahman - Pass Physical Prime -Pass Boxing Prime - motivation:non existence


                  Rahman 2- Pass Physical Prime - Pass Boxing Prime- EXTREMELY motivated

                  Tyson- Way Pass Physical Prime- Pass boxing prime -extremely motivated

                  Vitali Klithscko- Way Pass physical prime dead man walking
                  Way Pass Boxing Prime
                  zero motivation





                  Although the Lennox timeline is debatable the vast majority of boxing experts agree with the Mike Time line.


                  So in short, Mike just never had the heart or motivation, that thing about him being wayyy pass prime is just bull****

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Barnburner
                    Who says prime is proportional to age... Physical prime and actual prime are not the same thing.
                    So, to you he lost his prime just before the Douglas fight? Got it.

                    How convenient, lol.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Barnburner
                      Because Mike Tyson looked terrible for that fight...

                      What's not to get lol?
                      What looked so terrible? His physique? I think not. He was in shape, weighed the sane he alsays had. If he wasn't mentally there and lost, it has nothing to do with not being in his prime. That's an excuse for him and a copout.

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