I think vitilia prime beats prime tyson

[Mr. Invincible]

Mike Tyson
Lennox Lewis
Time Line posted by ESPN opinion writer


Mike Tyson

85-87 Pre-Physical Prime Pre -Boxing Prime highly motivated

88- Holmes Spinks fights -Physical Prime Boxing Prime Extremely Motivated

Buster Douglas Fight- Physical Prime Boxing Prime motivation:non existence


Razer Ruddock 1 2 - Physical Prime slightly pass boxing prime
highly motivated


Prison Stretch- Physical Prime - end of boxing prime


Holyfield 1-2 Slightly Pass Physical Prime -pass boxing prime very motivated


Golota- Slightly pass physical prime -Pass boxing prime Very motivated

Lewis- Way pass physical prime -way pass boxing prime Very Motivated



Lennox Lewis

Ruddock-Tucker-Bruno -Pre Physical Prime- Pre Boxing Prime
Extremely motivated

Oliver Mccall 1- Pre-Physical Prime Pre-Boxing Prime motivation: minimal

Ray Mercer Mccall 2: Physical Prime Pre-Boxing Prime Extremely Motivated


Golota Briggs Holyfield: Physical Prime-Boxing Prime Extremely Motivated

Grant-Tua: Pass Physical Prime -Boxing Prime - Extremely Motivated

Rahman - Pass Physical Prime -Pass Boxing Prime - motivation:non existence


Rahman 2- Pass Physical Prime - Pass Boxing Prime- EXTREMELY motivated

Tyson- Way Pass Physical Prime- Pass boxing prime -extremely motivated

Vitali Klithscko- Way Pass physical prime dead man walking
Way Pass Boxing Prime
zero motivation



Although the Lennox timeline is debatable the vast majority of boxing experts agree with the Mike Time line.


So in short, Mike just never had the heart or motivation, that thing about him being wayyy pass prime is just bull****

I lol'd at that. That's an excuse. He was close to fighting as good as he ever was and came in a little heavy and you guys make it like he would have been retired already. That's a crock of ****.

[Barn]

What looked so terrible? His physique? I think not. He was in shape, weighed the sane he alsays had. If he wasn't mentally there and lost, it has nothing to do with not being in his prime. That's an excuse for him and a copout.

His boxing ability looked terrible lmao... If physical shape decided bouts Bruno would be an ATG.

As I said it's physical prime and actual prime.

Watch his fight with Holmes then the Douglas fight and you'll see what I'm talking about.

[Barn]

I lol'd at that. That's an excuse. He was close to fighting as good as he ever was and came in a little heavy and you guys make it like he would have been retired already. That's a crock of ****.

It's there in the footage. Lewis looked sluggish, that was nowhere near the best version of Lewis.

Prime or not he still beat Vitali's ass regardless.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Tyson has the ability to knock anyone out but I think both Klitchko's give him tons of problems. He had trouble with tall boxers who had great jabs.

[Barn]

Tyson has the ability to knock anyone out but I think both Klitchko's give him tons of problems. He had trouble with tall boxers who had great jabs.

To be fair who doesn't? Although Tyson never really struggled with one physical type of fighter. He had losses to tall people, medium sized people and wins against them as well. It doesn't really tilt in any sides favour.

Of course they will be hard to figure out. I'm not gonna go ahead and say that Tyson murks them both however I just don't feel that the Klitchko's have the speed of foot and mobility to keep Tyson at bay in the long run. Especially with Wladamir, one shot could well and truly do it.

[Mr. Invincible]

His boxing ability looked terrible lmao... If physical shape decided bouts Bruno would be an ATG.

As I said it's physical prime and actual prime.

Watch his fight with Holmes then the Douglas fight and you'll see what I'm talking about.

I've seen both and to me it was a matter of what the opponent did right moreso than what Tyson did wrong. Don't forget he dropped Douglas for 13 seconds too.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

To be fair who doesn't? Although Tyson never really struggled with one physical type of fighter. He had losses to tall people, medium sized people and wins against them as well. It doesn't really tilt in any sides favour.

Of course they will be hard to figure out. I'm not gonna go ahead and say that Tyson murks them both however I just don't feel that the Klitchko's have the speed of foot and mobility to keep Tyson at bay in the long run. Especially with Wladamir, one shot could well and truly do it.

Actually he did have trouble with tall boxers. When Tyson was at his peak and was this monster that was destroying fighters, he fought Bone Crusher Smith and Razor Rudduck and both of them went the distance and gave him lots of trouble, more trouble than we had ever seen because of their length.

Let's remember, Tyson was short for a HW, he was 5'10" and weighed about 220 in his prime. The longer the fight went, the worse off it was for Tyson. He lost against other big tall boxers, Lewis and Buster Douglas, both used the same tactic.

Like I said, Tyson had enough power to knock anyone out and you could be right about him KO'n anyone of them but if the fight went longer than the 4th, I think the Klitchko's give him really, really tough fights.

[Vadrigar.]

Thanks for the rational backup.

we finally agree on something.

[Barn]

Actually he did have trouble with tall boxers. When Tyson was at his peak and was this monster that was destroying fighters, he fought Bone Crusher Smith and Razor Rudduck and both of them went the distance and gave him lots of trouble, more trouble than we had ever seen because of their length.

Let's remember, Tyson was short for a HW, he was 5'10" and weighed about 220 in his prime. The longer the fight went, the worse off it was for Tyson. He lost against other big tall boxers, Lewis and Buster Douglas, both used the same tactic.

Like I said, Tyson had enough power to knock anyone out and you could be right about him KO'n anyone of them but if the fight went longer than the 4th, I think the Klitchko's give him really, really tough fights.

He also KO'd larger boxers who were decent contenders such as Biggs, Bruno, Tubbs and Williams and lost to the smaller Holyfield and looked terrible in that fight.

That version of Douglas is a nightmare for anyone, dude was ****in' awesome. Jab, Movement, Courage, everything. That version of Douglas could take 1 from a 3 fight series with either brother.

Douglas, Bruno etc also had bigger reaches than Vitali and Wladimir.

The brothers are hard fights for anyone, they use their size well, very well. However I'm of the feeling that people like Tyson (although it's competitive) is a challenge too much.

[Mr. Invincible]

It's there in the footage. Lewis looked sluggish, that was nowhere near the best version of Lewis.

Prime or not he still beat Vitali's ass regardless.

Looked to me like he got his a55 kicked and won on cuts, but that's just me.....and the judges......and Foreman,Lampley,Lederman and Merchant.

Oh and the whole audience in the Staples Center.

But hey, who are we to question your opinion?