There's no arguement who beat the better ricky hatton is there?it was obviously Floyd

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  • WESS
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    #101
    Originally posted by junior gong
    The only thing Hatton learnt from 'Collozo'(lol) was that he wasnt a welterweight.

    ....Oh no, wait! I forgot that Hatton turned into prime Ray Leonard when he fought Floyd, ok, got it now.
    We all knew JMM didn't belong at WW after fighting Floyd either, yet look what he learned? Or was is that Pac is still the same fighter he was back in 2004 and 2008 when he looked just as bad?

    Now if you had been around in 2007, I had said Hatton never belonged in the ring with a fighter like Mayweather just like if you had been around in 2009 you would have known I said Pac would beat Hatton to the point that people would start to think Pac could actually beat Mayweather. Hatton was and is garbage. Ironically ********s are the ones who think Hatton was SRL when fighting Pac, which is far from the truth. ********s LOVE to over rate Hatton, I call it like it is and was... Hatton never belonged in the ring with Mayweather let alone Pac years later.... at any weight. Called that years ago.

    The European Hatton fans hated life then... now the ********s hate life. Funny how history can repeat itself.
    Last edited by WESS; 03-09-2012, 04:21 PM.

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    • junior gong
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      #102
      Originally posted by WESS
      We all knew JMM didn't belong at WW after fighting Floyd either, yet look what he learned? Or was is that Pac is still the same fighter he was back in 2004 and 2008 when he looked just as bad?

      Now if you had been around in 2007, I had said Hatton never belonged in the ring with a fighter like Mayweather just like if you had been around in 2009 you would have known I said Pac would beat Hatton to the point that people would start to think Pac could actually beat Mayweather. Hatton was and is garbage. Ironically ********s are the ones who think Hatton was SRL when fighting Pac, which is far from the truth. ********s LOVE to over rate Hatton, I call it like it is and was... Hatton never belonged in the ring with Mayweather let alone Pac years later.... at any weight. Called that years ago.

      The European Hatton fans hated life then... now the ********s hate life. Funny how history can repeat itself.


      Thats a real fan of the sport right there!

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      • 4Corners
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        #103
        Both get credit, Floyd's get more because he did it first.

        I don't see how anyone can say that Hatton was better against Pacquiao just because it was at 140 lbs. So, was Genaro Hernandez a better win for Floyd than it was for Oscar just because Floyd beat him at 130, where he was undefeated?????? No, Oscar still gets more credit for beating him first. Floyd beat Hatton coming off beating Ring #1 JWW Tszyu, Maussa, Collazo, and Urango. Manny beat Hatton coming off the loss to Floyd, and wins over Lazcano and Malignaggi. So yes, Manny gets credit, but Floyd still gets more because he did it first.

        And for the people saying "Manny gets more because he beat Hatton at 140, Floyd only did at 147", than if Pac beats Bradley at 147, you better call it like you did Floyd beating Hatton. You better state Bradley didn't belong at 147, or else it's a double standard. Hatton's only fight at 147 he fought a prime Luis Collazo, who's by no means an easy fight, and he took the WBA WW title from him. Controversial.....yes, but he still won a major world title at WW against a good fighter. Bradley's only fight at 147 he beat Abregu, not nearly as good a win as beating Collazo, and this is coming from a Bradley fan. No one's going to sit here and tell me that Floyd didn't fight the better version of Hatton going in. Going into the Mayweather-Hatton fight, EVERYONE wanted to see that fight and it was hyped up big time by just about everyone. Hatton was also Top 10 P4P, unbeaten, and widely seen as in his prime. Going into the Pacquiao fight, Hatton was still seen as one of the top JWW in the world, but no one was saying Ricky was prime or belonged in the Top fighters in the world.

        So, both get credit, I've always said that. But, Floyd still gets more because he it first. And the notion that Marquez was somehow a better fighter over 2 years later at 144 than he was in 2009 when he was past his prime-still good, is just ludicrous. That statement alone proves that who ever said it is nothing more than a bias Floyd hater. I mean some people really hate Floyd so much that they can't even admit that Floyd whupped Marquez at 144, a weight that Pac arguably just lost to him at, while Marquez is over 2 years older than he was against Floyd.
        Last edited by 4Corners; 03-09-2012, 04:31 PM.

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          #104
          Originally posted by junior gong


          Thats a real fan of the sport right there!
          No doubt....

          and like I like said back then "I told you so".... and now Hatton is retired.

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          • Sin City
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            #105
            it was the same Ricky Hatton imo.. one loss doesn't change a man much.

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              #106
              Originally posted by Sin City
              it was the same Ricky Hatton imo.. one loss doesn't change a man much.
              Floyd fans keep remind people that Floyd beat him first, its important to them that people know FLoyd beat hatton first. Its important to give Floyd credit on a tecnicality. People probably dont know that DLH beat Hernandez before Floyd, as Pac fans or DLH fans arent quite as desperate to let people know as Floyd fans are.

              If Floyd had a few more impressive wins under his resume, his fans would have more to boast about, rather than Floyd beat hatton first.

              Sorry to let you down but boxers can improve after a loss you know. Beating someone first isnt all its cracked up to be. Not that most people believe it was in the first place. But its something Floyd fans made up to give Floyd credit on a tecnicality of course.

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                #107
                I don't know if floyd could beat hatton without a help from the referee.

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                • junior gong
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by WESS
                  No doubt....

                  and like I like said back then "I told you so".... and now Hatton is retired.
                  Yeh, because a true boxing fan, a real hardcore kind of guy can sit there on his fat ass and call a former two weight world champion and someone who contributed massively to the sports wider appeal 'garbage'.

                  Boxing needs 'fans' like you like a hole in the head.

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                  • Lords
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                    #109
                    The Ricky that manny fought was a lost soul out there. Even Floyd Sr. was like 'WTF are you doin'. Dude through his game plan out the window and fought like an idiot. It was only a matter of time before he was gonna get KO'd and he deserved to get KO'd for fighting like an amateur.

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                    • ADP02
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by WESS
                      He still won the fight. Seems everyone's argument about JMM looking better at WW the second time around is because he was experienced when he fought Floyd. Hatton had fought at WW and looked like **** vs Collazo so the same logic should be that he should had been better the second time (like JMM vs Pac at WW).. or does this Pactrrded logic not work here?

                      EVerything about Haton going into the Mayweather fight was better by a mile... EASY... He wasn't even the same person by the time Pac fought him. Hell NOBODY wanted to see the fight. Nobody thought he had a chance. Floyd Sr is the only one that sold that fight as Hatton was complete **** and everyone knew it.
                      Man, I'm starting to think that you don't know boxing ..... but I'm now hoping that it must be because you need to defend your hero Floyd at all costs.



                      Please post ALL the great fights that Hatton had at 147 .....


                      With today's technology it shouldn't take you long .... especially because you are so convinced that the Hatton at WW was the better version of Hatton.

                      To boot, Hatton was fighting Floyd and the ref at 147 ....

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