If Prince Naseem Hamed was American.....

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #11
    Originally posted by Roy Jones Jnr
    He would be known as an ATG.

    Now i love Mike Tyson, he's one of my favourite Boxers of all time but i laugh when i see so many people have him so high up in their ATG list. Look at Tyson's record and look at Prince Naseem's record...this may surprise many of you but there's a few similiarities there. The big difference being that Hamed didn't come back from his defeat(once but that was a meh fight) fair enough, however Tyson did come back from defeats but only went on to lose again whenever he faced a true world class opponent.(talking about a live Tyson here, not even taking the McBride and Williams defeats into account)

    Now let this be known, i am a huge fan of both boxers. As my username may hint, im a sucker for pure entertainment...which both of these two greats had in bundles....anyway even being a fan of both Tyson and Hamed i can however admit that their records are nothing spectacular. Sure Tyson faced more world class operators than Hamed did, however the fact remains that he lost those fights. It just baffles me why so many people rank Tyson so highly yet dismiss Hamed so easily.

    Thoughts?
    I always like Hamed. Think he doesn't get his just due because he was so flashy. He was a very good fighter, just not great.

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    • _original_
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      #12
      Originally posted by catalinul
      He retired due to hand issues mainly though.

      He had bad hands.
      Really? I always thought it was due to **** soreness after Barrera ****d him up and down the ring.

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      • PlayerKiller
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        #13
        Watch little prince, big fight on YouTube. You will see a documentary of how named was not really training that great and looked shut in sparring.

        I recall named brother, his manager mocking Barrera as try drove passed that mountain. He laughed that we are here and Barrera is up there in the cold.

        I was thinking, er that's not a good thing fool.

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        • flat1985
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          #14
          Hamed got so ****y that he didnt train properly shame really. His Family taking over didnt help either.

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          • PlayerKiller
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            #15
            Originally posted by _original_
            Really? I always thought it was due to **** soreness after Barrera ****d him up and down the ring.

            Tbh Barrera did beat him, but named won 3 or 4 rounds still from memory.
            He did have bad hands, his hand broke at least once if not more. He relied on too much power by that stage but couldn't adapt to boxing only. Big problem when you face a hof.

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            • 4Corners
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              #16
              I really wish Hamed would have beat Barrera, because Floyd in 2001 would have spanked Naseem though. Floyd at 130 wouldn't have lost to anyone at 130.

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              • RL_GMA
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                #17
                I don't think it makes a difference. He lost to Barrera and where most elite fighters would come back and gain back their thrown / notoriety, he just disappeared and got into ****. He wasted a good amount of his remaining years which could've been filled with fights w/ Erik Morales, Manny Pacquiao, Juan Manuel Marquez, etc.

                With that being said, he was exciting to watch as long as he was active. Also considering he wasn't from the US, he was actually a popular guy in the States when it came to Boxing. I remember my friends even at a young age not knowing Boxing wanting to see his fights.

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                • TOBYLEE1
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                  #18
                  Hamed was fun to watch but he never got that signature win. Any of Mexico's big three win would had been good for him and made a case for him being a sure shot HOF.

                  It doesn't have to do anything with not being american. He had legit HOFamers in his weight class and the minute he fought one he lost and never came back after the tune up fight he had

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                  • southpaw_07
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                    #19
                    Naz lacked discipline, that's why he failed vs Barrera. His speed, power was far superior to that of Manny / Mayweather. Those guys though, have more success due to them living the boxer's life style/discipline inside and outside the ring, Naz just couldn't and that's why he failed. He ignored his corner's advice in between rounds, he turned his cheek the other way when Steward spoke to him (Barrera fight) , very arrogant and he paid for it (by losing)

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                    • yuppie
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                      #20
                      Bored of these kind of threads, all i want to say is...


                      Boxing needs a Naseem Hamed again.

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